The official 36" zelos twin modding thread
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Wow, so the water will still get in there even with it sanded flat? I would have never guessed that . I would think it needed something sticking down to direct it in the pick up tube especially since its epoxied in there perpendicular to the bottom of the hull pad. Thanks to all that responded, No scoop for me. Just an idea I thought I'd throw in the mix. I'm a beginner at this so I'm still learning.Zelos 36 stock 68 mphComment
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Question for those running the x447 (balanced & sharpened) on the Zelos. Did you drop the timing down one step to 3? Is this prop better suited for short speed runs only or can you use it for speed runs and messing around on the lake. I saw a post on another site where Rafael recommended dropping the timing one step with bigger propsZelos 36 stock 68 mphComment
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ok BALLER 69 take the gloves off. If I was you I would take in what people are saying. I ran cars as well and the torque in a boat is much different. If you were at my pond, I would walk away. The point is, why not come here and say " I'm trying this" not " I'm doing this and setting a record" Most of us that been boating for a long time, think it won't work. so instead of getting offensive, why not ask WHY? we think it wont work. All I'm saying is, if you get it to work, then brag and cut people down that been doing this for a long time. would like to see it do 100+++++ like you CLAME it will do. Accually would like to see it twice, because if you do get it to that point. it would be smoked. anyone can do 1 speed pass and smoke it! So just tone it down and zipp it or prove everyone wrong. Your cutting down everyone, prove there all wrong, I bet you cant.....and that's just my 2c'sZelos 36 stock 68 mphComment
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ok BALLER 69 take the gloves off. If I was you I would take in what people are saying. I ran cars as well and the torque in a boat is much different. If you were at my pond, I would walk away. The point is, why not come here and say " I'm trying this" not " I'm doing this and setting a record" Most of us that been boating for a long time, think it won't work. so instead of getting offensive, why not ask WHY? we think it wont work. All I'm saying is, if you get it to work, then brag and cut people down that been doing this for a long time. would like to see it do 100+++++ like you CLAME it will do. Accually would like to see it twice, because if you do get it to that point. it would be smoked. anyone can do 1 speed pass and smoke it! So just tone it down and zipp it or prove everyone wrong. Your cutting down everyone, prove there all wrong, I bet you cant.....and that's just my 2c's
Agreed and well put. See this guy has to understand that we aren't dummies and it's not "easy" to put a new setup together and break 100 without lots of trial and error. He doesn't realize that speed in a boat isn't about just throw all the the power and rpm at it you can and think it's going to go fast. It's simply not. It will fly off the water long before it gets even close to 100. I have no doubt in my mind that he will be humbled upon his first 8s attempt with this boat. He definitely picked the wrong wrong hull to attempt 100 with on his first attempt also. Not trying to take anything away from the zelos but the hull isn't strong enough for 100+ speeds. It's an rtr boat. Not a custom built boat that's reinforced for the duty of going that fast. I'll admit, when I first got into this hobby I thought it would be cake to hit 70mph. I had a rude awakening no doubt. It's was definitely a journey. Just a year and a half ago I was still trying to break 100 (with a single motor) with 7s and I even attempted 8s a couple times (which ended in acrobatics) and I could only get to 98. Then I took a couple steps back. Learned a few things. Experimented. Didn't rush things trying to break triple digits and then when I felt I was ready to try I it again it did it on half the voltage with the same boat. It only took me 4s worth of voltage to do it. Power is ALOT less important than the tuning, prop, weight, balance and setup of the boat. There's so many little tweaks I've learned to get to the point I'm at. There's a reason why you don't see many single motor cats in the triple digits, it's because it's not a walk in the park to do it. Doing it in a twin motor cats "should" come a little easier but you have to fight other problems like trying to keep it stable and on the water.
To baller: I think you offended a few people with your empty claims of blowing everyone away and breaking records and whatnot. The thing is you have no idea what it takes to break a boat record. No idea at all. You don't even know what the rules are. If you were in Q cat you'll have to run 6s max per motor and the record you'd have to beat is over 127mph. If you decided you'd want to run your 8s setup then you'd have to do over 132mph. And I hate to break it to you, a rtr zelos is never going to come close to staying on the water at those speeds. This hull just packs too much air to stay on the water. So I'm not quite sure what record you claim your going to break. Please enlighten me.32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) wasComment
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Its been a PIA to go 86. Broke the transom at the strut mounts, its metal/epoxy reinforced now. This thing is wide and I agree it packs a ton of lift under the tunnel. Id be blessed to hit 95 and keep it together. Considering lighter batteries (4000mah-ish), airdam and reinforcements galore. It impoldes, cant say I didnt git edumacated.Comment
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Been toying with the idea of taking my first hull and blueprinting the ridepads adding maybe 1/8" to change attitude as well. Might as well. This hull likes to imitate the Jesus Christ Lizard and skip on its tail. This winter will be fun for sure.Comment
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that is interesting: long time back to nitro days :) I had to add 1/8th to my tunnel hull's back pads. Like to hear if you end up trying it. And for what its worth, I changed my prop rotation to outward, and either I was lucky the 1 time I tried it, or it helped keep it from bouncing. going to try to get out tomorrow and beat my 68 record on stock.Zelos 36 stock 68 mphComment
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KFXGUY: I agree with the zelos having "too much air to stay on the water" and if it does that high speed, I think things will be cracking, hopefully baller read all the post here about Hull cracking. Maybe before it got dipped he reinforced those points that people pointed out. Proboat made a great rtr boat, you can keep up with about anything on your local pond. If you want a "record breaker", don't pick a rtr boat hull.Zelos 36 stock 68 mphComment
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AGREED. Commercial Construction Superintendant here. Doesn't matter if they are electrical engineers HVAC or structural. Facts allways get twisted and have to be changed and slip-sheeted all the time.Comment
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Have a question. I am running 4x 3s batteries, (two to each esc) can I just run 2x 6s batteries instead, ( one battery per esc) and do away with the wire harness.Zelos 36 stock 68 mphComment
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Yep you can. But my opinion, you have more CG tuning with 4 packs due to the size of 6s packs and there only being 2. With 4 you can slide two packs back 1/2" vs 2 packs 1/4". Not only that but 4 will have a wider footprint and lower.Comment
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my thinking was, with going to just 2x6s I lose weight. 4x 3s weighs 51.6 oz, and 2x 6s weighs 42.8 oz and I will have shorter wires, since I'm not using the harness . longer the wires the hotter they get and loose power. just my thinking on it.Zelos 36 stock 68 mphComment
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