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  • Team Lucas
    Senior Member
    • May 2016
    • 300

    #1666
    Originally posted by stratus
    Has any1 here removed the teflon lines from the stock brass tubes and run it like that?I would like an advise if the stock brass is to big to run it with out the teflon.
    Thnx in advance
    Most race boats don't run a Teflon tube, electric or fuel powered. I have run Jeff's wire drive in this boat and it's the same as running a flex drive w/o Teflon tube. Pro is less drag...con is water entering the hull. If your going to run like a bat out of hell (racing) take the tube out or get a wire drive with a water nipple... or for pleasure like floating at times, keep the Teflon tube in.
    Hope this helped.
    Zelos 36 stock 68 mph

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    • stratus
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2016
      • 110

      #1667
      Ty both guys.I have emailed jeff and sent him a pm in here also cause i was intresting for the wires but he hasnt replied to me yet,so ill have to run it in teflon since the brass tube is to big to run with out
      Genesis 36", Zelos Twin 36"

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      • fweasel
        master of some
        • Jul 2016
        • 4286

        #1668
        I'm running my wire drives with the teflon tube in place as is REDLINE1.
        Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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        • Team Lucas
          Senior Member
          • May 2016
          • 300

          #1669
          Originally posted by fweasel
          I'm running my wire drives with the teflon tube in place as is REDLINE1.
          I did same as well
          Zelos 36 stock 68 mph

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          • Team Lucas
            Senior Member
            • May 2016
            • 300

            #1670
            Originally posted by stratus
            Ty both guys.I have emailed jeff and sent him a pm in here also cause i was intresting for the wires but he hasnt replied to me yet,so ill have to run it in teflon since the brass tube is to big to run with out

            wire drives will make the tube way too big, so whats the difference?
            Zelos 36 stock 68 mph

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            • kfxguy
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Oct 2013
              • 8746

              #1671
              Originally posted by Team Lucas
              Most race boats don't run a Teflon tube, electric or fuel powered. I have run Jeff's wire drive in this boat and it's the same as running a flex drive w/o Teflon tube. Pro is less drag...con is water entering the hull. If your going to run like a bat out of hell (racing) take the tube out or get a wire drive with a water nipple... or for pleasure like floating at times, keep the Teflon tube in.
              Hope this helped.


              Have you tried packing the drive tube with thick grease? Should keepbthe water out.
              32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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              • REDLINE1
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2016
                • 199

                #1672
                I think the leaks are coming from where the strut mates w the hull. You don't see it w the flex cable because its bigger than the wire add grease and it sealed good. I remounted the struts with some silicon sealer. Have run the wire drives several times and tested in bathtub no leaks so far

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                • banixj
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 107

                  #1673
                  lvc: now is too cold for test, i hope someone will supply me a new ESC if is needed... but i have to wait at least one month...

                  shaft upgrade: i'd like to install wire drives too but i'm scared by water entry... i asked some more info to jeff...

                  stock shaft: i noted my shafts are a little thinner in the diameter in the point where collet tight in... is it normal or i have to upgrade immediatly?
                  HPR 115 kevlar bulletproof @90mph, MHZ Rapid carbonfiber, Bingo Race Minieco
                  Futaba AIR TX/RX system with telemetry

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                  • Team Lucas
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2016
                    • 300

                    #1674
                    Originally posted by banixj
                    lvc: now is too cold for test, i hope someone will supply me a new ESC if is needed... but i have to wait at least one month...

                    shaft upgrade: i'd like to install wire drives too but i'm scared by water entry... i asked some more info to jeff...

                    stock shaft: i noted my shafts are a little thinner in the diameter in the point where collet tight in... is it normal or i have to upgrade immediatly?


                    Hi Banixj. Are your shafts stock? Are they both thinner at collet? On my stock shafts, I had one shaft at the collet was thinner because the shaft unwound a bit, but not enough to make it not run. I went to OSE upgraded shafts. I also have Jeffs wire drives I tried, and there very nice work, however I haven't worked on the water entering the boat yet, Jeff has a good idea I have yet to try.
                    We run year round here, but I been messing with gas boats, but breaking out the Zelos this sunday, we will have 3 of them racing for fun.
                    Zelos 36 stock 68 mph

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                    • Erroneous
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 451

                      #1675
                      Update on the madness. New motors on the way along with 5000mah 435 gopacks. Also sitting on a new pair of ABCs by Dasboata. Figure Ill put one of the Poseidon motors in the V3 Blackjack, Turnigy180 on the way for that. Dont want to let the cat out of the bag yet on motor/prop combo. I will say this will get my blood moving for sure. Going to reinforce my original Zelos hull (will be interesting) as well... Fingers crossed, salt over the shoulder and lucky lucky chicken bones.

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                      • stratus
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2016
                        • 110

                        #1676
                        Originally posted by Erroneous
                        Going to reinforce my original Zelos hull (will be interesting) as well...
                        Take pics when you do pls and keep us informed,are you going to remove motor mounts?Mine are swimming in glue underneath and scares me a bit i wonder if yours is like that also?Good luck on your build :)
                        Genesis 36", Zelos Twin 36"

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                        • stratus
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2016
                          • 110

                          #1677
                          Yesturday had my maiden run!Mainly was a test run to see if all was ok,struts was on 4mm and batts all the way forward and i have to say that the boat was really nice planted on the water no bounces or any other bad stuff.I used 2x3s turnigy graphenes 65c 6000 mah,run time was about 8 mins and all temps was super cool 35c each motor both esc around 30c and batterys around 25c,also after the tips from fweasel removed the struts and used silicone in the join with transom also removed the rudder mount and where the links for the servo goes through and silicone there to.Results not a single drop of water inside the hull (was verry happy about it cause on my bathtub test had like 2-3 spoon of water inside).Unfortunatly didnt have a gps with me cause it was like a last minute dicision and just took a couple thinks with me,but the boat looked prety fast and most important really stable (was prety windy also on my run yesturday)
                          Genesis 36", Zelos Twin 36"

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                          • stratus
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2016
                            • 110

                            #1678
                            The first vid was a 4 min but ended up with a teaser :p Linking one more which is after i brought the boat out to check temps leaks etc(also on that vid i removed around 3 mins).On both vids im using same batts
                            Genesis 36", Zelos Twin 36"

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                            • banixj
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 107

                              #1679
                              good run! but... are u in the sea??
                              HPR 115 kevlar bulletproof @90mph, MHZ Rapid carbonfiber, Bingo Race Minieco
                              Futaba AIR TX/RX system with telemetry

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                              • stratus
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2016
                                • 110

                                #1680
                                Originally posted by banixj
                                good run! but... are u in the sea??
                                Thnx and you mean if i was standing in the sea?If that yes but the water barely covered my ankle its to shallow so its basicly like stand on the beach
                                Genesis 36", Zelos Twin 36"

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