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  • vasy
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 333

    #166
    Originally posted by Make-a-Wake
    For a single, a 1521 would be the minimum for a decent upgrade.
    Could not afford a Neu... went with TYPHOON 700-83 1445 KV.
    It is the same size and rated power as Neu 1521. On 6s and 48mm prop this thing now rips fast around the local river.
    Love it, love it, love it :)
    Even use all stock running hardware. Cable was letting go in coupler until I applied some lock tight.
    I found that it is now much more stable and has no tendency to pitch up and down. Just stays straight as an arrow on the water just skimming along the top.
    Need to upgrade to a stronger linkage cable.
    Last edited by vasy; 08-05-2010, 01:16 AM.

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    • HYDROJERRY
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Jan 2010
      • 2503

      #167
      Originally posted by jamespl
      i dont think that servo would fit. Ive been and ran mine today for the first time on 2s2p and it was quite quick but i managed to get the rudder caught on something under the water and as its gone over it has split the back of the hull a bit i swear i have the worst luck with rc boats. What timing have you guys got your running at with the seaking 180amp esc and standard motor, it wasnt as fast as i would have liked and the batteries didnt last very long, they are 2x 7.4v 5800mah.
      Jamespl have you seen my video yet,,my timming was at 15 but i have been advised to go with 6 or 7 degrees,,,i will try that this weekend as for speed mine was quick with the seaking 120 temps on it were ok so i think im going to stay with that for now,, dont forget to put a plastic bolt threw the rudder so it will brake before the hull does..but you already no this im sure..

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      • Alfa Spirit
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Oct 2009
        • 2131

        #168
        I' m agree with Vas-y NEU motors are expensive, but that' s price for high quality motor.

        Do you know TYPHOON motors? They are high rated in aero models and not very expensive



        http://www.highendrc.com/index_ecat.php?cPath=31



        If you need more watts and high torque =>

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        • forescott
          Hopelessly Addicted to RC
          • Nov 2009
          • 2686

          #169
          Is there a water-jacket to fit these big guys??

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          • Alfa Spirit
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Oct 2009
            • 2131

            #170
            Originally posted by vasy
            Could not afford a Neu... went with Tornado 1445 KV.
            It is the same size and rated power as Neu 1521. On 6s and 48mm prop this thing now rips fast around the local river.
            Love it, love it, love it :)
            Even use all stock running hardware. Cable was letting go in coupler until I applied some lock tight.
            I found that it is now much more stable and has no tendency to pitch up and down. Just stays straight as an arrow on the water just skimming along the top.
            Need to upgrade to a stronger linkage cable.
            I tryed with the standard servo and it fits.

            I always use strong linkage (twin)
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            Last edited by Alfa Spirit; 08-05-2010, 01:26 AM.

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            • Make-a-Wake
              FE Rules!
              • Nov 2009
              • 5557

              #171
              That first typhoon you listed Alfa, is the same size as a Neu 1515..............hmmm, and 4 poles..........nice find. How much is it? I dont know what L76.77 equates to.

              EDIT................i figured out its $120 US.
              Last edited by Make-a-Wake; 08-04-2010, 10:35 PM.
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              • vasy
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 333

                #172
                Originally posted by Make-a-Wake
                That first typhoon you listed Alfa, is the same size as a Neu 1515..............hmmm, and 4 poles..........nice find. How much is it? I dont know what L76.77 equates to.

                EDIT................i figured out its $120 US.
                They make 3 sizes, 1515, 1521 and 1527 equivalent. Only think is in 1527 size only low KV so only good for 8s or so. They are listed as same sizes as Neu so maybe same jacket will work.
                Free shipping on thme as well, prices about 1/2 of Neu.

                in my original post I made an error, it was TYPHOON not Tornado. 700-83 model.

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                • Diesel6401
                  Memento Vivere
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 4204

                  #173
                  Originally posted by Make-a-Wake
                  Wow........monster setup! Was it real stable at top speed??
                  Sorry for the delay in response. On vacation and limited to online time. I have a small steering issue I need to work out, at low speeds it tracks straight when I get on the throttle it wants to drift to the right a little. Won't be much to figure out. I really have to take the turns wide or slow down dramatically, I found that out when I rolled it. Other than that it was a good first run and has promise. She really jumps pretty good out the hole and has a wicked torque roll when punching it from a deep start. Lot a power, she looked good a full speed, nice rooster and the graffics and size look great in motion. She's a decent size cat, needs good power to get moving. I may switch motors down the line to a leopard 4082 or 5692.

                  I will be happy with mid to low 50s and reliable. What do you guys thing a good all around speed for this hull is? Currently ran 48.9mph.
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                  • Make-a-Wake
                    FE Rules!
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 5557

                    #174
                    Quote Diesel - "Sorry for the delay in response. On vacation and limited to online time. I have a small steering issue I need to work out, at low speeds it tracks straight when I get on the throttle it wants to drift to the right a little. Won't be much to figure out. I really have to take the turns wide or slow down dramatically"

                    Vacations are definately good................just went to New England myself.................55* overnite lows in VT!

                    My buddy ran one with the stock setup on 4s and took full throttle turns..............maybe due to less weight and the 39 mph top end he got.

                    Got any vid?
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                    • Diesel6401
                      Memento Vivere
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 4204

                      #175
                      Originally posted by Make-a-Wake
                      Quote Diesel - "Sorry for the delay in response. On vacation and limited to online time. I have a small steering issue I need to work out, at low speeds it tracks straight when I get on the throttle it wants to drift to the right a little. Won't be much to figure out. I really have to take the turns wide or slow down dramatically"

                      Vacations are definately good................just went to New England myself.................55* overnite lows in VT!

                      My buddy ran one with the stock setup on 4s and took full throttle turns..............maybe due to less weight and the 39 mph top end he got.

                      Got any vid?
                      No vids just yet, I was rushing to get it in the water before night fall and I was leaving the next day. I will try and get some vid next time I get it in the water. I'm going to throw that m445 on it and see what that does.
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                      • HYDROJERRY
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 2503

                        #176
                        wazz up Diesel, sounds like it ran realy good next time i go out im going to GPS to see how slow it is on the stok setup but your48 mph sounds real good...ps im on vacation next week, not going anywhere but lots of boating i hope and home computer just got zapped (great) now gonna have to find a new one not that i can afford it right now,,buummer.

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                        • Diesel6401
                          Memento Vivere
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 4204

                          #177
                          Ok got some runs in today. Ran like . I swapped to the m445 prop. I moved the batts more towards center. Steering was a lot worse this time compared to first run. Hit full throttle and after about 35 yards blow over. Recovered it and gps read 50.1mph. I moved the batts foward a little, ran again and another blow over. Recovered and gps read 51mph. I moved the batts all the forward against the factory foam and added a slight negative angle on the strut, ran again and blow over. Final gps reading was 52.6mph. Temps where all good. Their was a slight chop in the water, but not enough to cause the blow overs. Inline rudder may be the cause of the steering issues. Is this hull limited to 50mph or did I just have bad luck today?
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                          • Make-a-Wake
                            FE Rules!
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 5557

                            #178
                            You may have hit the "wall".........Bill has gotten to right at 50 as well................

                            Is the hull too narrow for much more............is that an issue at all???
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                            • Diesel6401
                              Memento Vivere
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 4204

                              #179
                              Originally posted by Make-a-Wake
                              You may have hit the "wall".........Bill has gotten to right at 50 as well................

                              Is the hull too narrow for much more............is that an issue at all???
                              That sucks. Well didn't take, but 3 runs to max out this hull lol. Their was a HUGE difference with the way the boat handled at high 40s vs low 50s. Narrowness of the hull def a limiting factor IMO not much forgiveness and inline rudder sucks as well. I am going to put the CF45 back on, scale it back to mid 40s and attempt to dial it in. It liked the CF45 a lot more than that m445, I think its a speed issue the m445 pushed it further than it liked. Serious prop walk and blow over issues I didn't have with the other prop. You may see this on the swap shop down the road, not sure yet.

                              Anyone want a Genesis with a 580L?!? Trade for a HOTR Cat single or twins....
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                              • video200
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 837

                                #180
                                Originally posted by Make-a-Wake

                                My buddy ran one with the stock setup on 4s and took full throttle turns..............maybe due to less weight and the 39 mph top end he got.
                                how was the temps ? i got the first run on mine today and after 2 minutes on 3s and X438 the motor was blistering hot so i wont even imagen how it would be on 4s

                                speeds around 25-30 mph on the eye radar

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