Spirit of Texas Drag Hydro

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Megabiker98
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 253

    #166
    Originally posted by f1rogers
    Just for thrills, 0 to 240mph in 4 seconds, boat called "Madness".[ATTACH=CONFIG]93091[/ATTACH]
    well they do the 1/8 mile in 4 seconds there probably at 250 in the first 2 seconds id say!!

    Comment

    • drwayne
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • May 2008
      • 2981

      #167
      Thanks. Outwards rotation

      Originally posted by f1rogers
      Just for thrills, 0 to 240mph in 4 seconds, boat called "Madness".[ATTACH=CONFIG]93091[/ATTACH]
      Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
      @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

      Comment

      • twissted
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 867

        #168
        That's faaaast!
        Props next to each other would make sence to run them outwards to keep trubulence between the props at a minimum.
        I think cupping them would help as well.
        twissted from speed. Lead, fallow or get out of the way. Copy cats in back of the buss!!!

        Comment

        • drwayne
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • May 2008
          • 2981

          #169
          Originally posted by twissted
          That's faaaast!
          Props next to each other would make sence to run them outwards to keep trubulence between the props at a minimum.
          I think cupping them would help as well.
          First day outwards rotation runs1,2,3 returned 10kmh faster.. too much skippy action when inwards run 4+5.
          Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
          @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

          Comment

          • drwayne
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • May 2008
            • 2981

            #170
            Out again today to try some setup options.
            Found lots that dont work :p
            Left sponson tip now wears a small bandaid, will write 'ouch' soon.

            Lack of cowl makes for very uncontrolled flight at speed.
            "Driver's capsule" at front will aid nose down force.
            W
            Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
            @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

            Comment

            • srislash
              Not there yet
              • Mar 2011
              • 7673

              #171
              You'll get it Doc,and we'll learn

              Comment

              • Megabiker98
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 253

                #172
                Have u though about trying to get the motors to spin a little faster when turning one way?? That might give a little bit of help possibly

                Comment

                • Chrisg81983
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1556

                  #173
                  Higher rpm and smaller props is were its at. I had big twin hydros and they hated big props. Soon as I went to 57's cut to 51-52 mm or even a set of 447's worked pretty well for me. I had to detoungh and slight back cut the cut 57's. I will try to get u some pictures up for u....
                  my youtube videos http://www.youtube.com/user/chris81983?feature=mhee

                  Comment

                  • drwayne
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • May 2008
                    • 2981

                    #174
                    Originally posted by Chrisg81983
                    Higher rpm and smaller props is were its at. I had big twin hydros and they hated big props. Soon as I went to 57's cut to 51-52 mm or even a set of 447's worked pretty well for me. I had to detoungh and slight back cut the cut 57's. I will try to get u some pictures up for u....
                    Hi.
                    This ran smooth with x447s.. the ride is smooth.. but launch dismal, top speed was embarrassing @60mph ... props kept 'breaking out'

                    This needs "driver's capsule" for nosecone down force and the airborne stability that offers.
                    A large object taped to nose created a down force that made this run better.. but the fly-on attitude made some sphincter concerns as it touched the wall ! ( hello bandaid, thanks Doc ! )

                    After launch this lifts at motor thrust point, and hull raises level from there.. then scoots along airborne on prop thrust, flying horizontally. ..
                    Dont get this issue confused.., this thing rips 70+ after launch at 1/2 throttle and building .. and yet it stumbles due prop on/off as hull raises/lowers due that thrust vectoring transfered to motor face, with props skipping along..
                    CG movement induced nose down or up attitude ( sink or fly respectively )...

                    Removing lift from props may help a smoother push through water/air... and then I will revisit CG placement.
                    Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
                    @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

                    Comment

                    • Richie the shipwright
                      boatbuilder
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 185

                      #175
                      I think chris has raised a good point. With smaller props the boat did seem MUCH happier!. A few kmh slower mabee... but as you said doc, you have a lot of throttle left in your bottle!! Just hitting the throttle seems to just make her very angry... mabee slightly slower "trigger finger" would smooth out the launch a bit? Its a total animal mate, just needs a bit of training!

                      I wonder if youre the first bloke to dicover the aerodynamic/downforce properties of an 8m Stanley measuring tape??? :-)

                      Im going to paint a sign on that wall you keep aiming at as a little reminder......"TURN RIGHT DOC!!!"
                      (Or a big bullseye target...) :-)
                      Im confused..... no...wait...mabee im not?

                      Comment

                      • drwayne
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • May 2008
                        • 2981

                        #176
                        Smaller props gave cavitation on launch, lowered top speed, yet made little change to the ride attitude.
                        Props not prime cause the observed control issues.
                        Aerodynamics now the focus.
                        Under 60mph this handles great.
                        Over that it's like a rigger with a wing up front !
                        W
                        Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
                        @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

                        Comment

                        • Rumdog
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 6453

                          #177
                          Smaller props and motors. More rpm.

                          Comment

                          • Heaving Earth
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 1877

                            #178
                            Where are the batteries?
                            Thing rides like a v hull, nose bouncing around....

                            Comment

                            • drwayne
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • May 2008
                              • 2981

                              #179
                              Originally posted by Rumdog
                              Smaller props and motors. More rpm.
                              This is a drag boat, not oval.. . x447 although smoother(slower) launch did no better than x457 at speed
                              In fact they 'broke out' ( broke into cavitation) well before throttle achieved by x457s when they did same.

                              Originally posted by Heaving Earth
                              Where are the batteries?
                              Thing rides like a v hull, nose bouncing around....
                              Under launch acceleration this lifts and rides // parallel to water ... struts on water.. nose attitude constant
                              Nose slapping is due holding partial throttle ( blows over +70mph) ..Im not accelerating to 100% before button off .. thus the hull leaps up and goes , then no additional throttle and it starts to drop off thrust lift vectored at motors .
                              CG is not same as in a sports hydro.
                              This is to achieve straightline launch and go, not oval as some these tests suggest..
                              ....it does circulate ok in oval form (~1/2 throttle @60mph), however that is not my intended goal.

                              regs
                              W



                              Tests yesterday with ad hoc downforce object improved handling dramatically

                              Will post results with down force from cowl ( when cowl arrives)
                              Last edited by drwayne; 02-04-2013, 06:41 AM.
                              Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
                              @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

                              Comment

                              • jcald2000
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2008
                                • 774

                                #180
                                1/2' deep air dam across the tunnel will help.

                                Comment

                                Working...