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  • drwayne
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • May 2008
    • 2981

    #121
    Originally posted by egneg
    Ok Doc ... props are done!

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]92720[/ATTACH]
    marvelous.
    now you'd best pm me the costly details !
    Thx
    W
    Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
    @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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    • Xzessperated
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2008
      • 3060

      #122
      Originally posted by egneg
      Ok Doc ... props are done!

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      Several boats in various stages of destruction

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      • Richie the shipwright
        boatbuilder
        • Dec 2012
        • 185

        #123
        In relation with the corner..Which prop would be affected by disturbed waterflow...? inside or outside?? ive heard both arguments, both make sense... but which is really the lesser of two evils?

        Drag and aerated water from propblast on rudder....
        Or disturbed waterflow (from rudder) to prop???

        If it's the inside prop thats affected, Wouldnt this disturbed waterflow cause the undistubed prop to have more thrust than the prop IN the disturbed water?? Causing the boat to turn better/faster???

        Good job with the temp cowl doc. :-)
        Im confused..... no...wait...mabee im not?

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        • Megabiker98
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 253

          #124
          Originally posted by Richie the shipwright
          In relation with the corner..Which prop would be affected by disturbed waterflow...? inside or outside?? ive heard both arguments, both make sense... but which is really the lesser of two evils?

          Drag and aerated water from propblast on rudder....
          Or disturbed waterflow (from rudder) to prop???

          If it's the inside prop thats affected, Wouldnt this disturbed waterflow cause the undistubed prop to have more thrust than the prop IN the disturbed water?? Causing the boat to turn better/faster???

          Good job with the temp cowl doc. :-)
          my guess is that with the rudder in front of props when u turn one way it will force water to that side which will give more thrust due to more water hitting the full prop, therefor making one side push more! I could be completely wrong also! I think either side could be argued as only way to find out is to test it!

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          • egneg
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Feb 2008
            • 4670

            #125
            In oval racing you always turn in the same direction thus the one motor would have a greater load that may lead to overheating.
            IMPBA 20481S D-12

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            • drwayne
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • May 2008
              • 2981

              #126
              Took the beasty out today for its' maiden, using the temp cowl.

              Woohoo !
              slight water ingress up the shaft outers , couple tablespoon's worth, absorbed by strategically placed paper towel.
              It floats on a cushion of air at 65mph+, and has positive buoyancy !


              hopefully Richie and/or Wade will post video soon


              Originally posted by egneg
              In oval racing you always turn in the same direction thus the one motor would have a greater load that may lead to overheating.
              IME the inside of corner motor returns warmer/hotter
              Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
              @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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              • Richie the shipwright
                boatbuilder
                • Dec 2012
                • 185

                #127
                Dont worry doc.. videos i took turned out great. I checked again........the first duck the boat "buzzed" definately crapped himself!! :-)

                Think the fish got a bit of a fright too... He..he...he... bouyancy....CHECK!!!! HELL FUNNY MATE!!!!
                Im confused..... no...wait...mabee im not?

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                • Megabiker98
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 253

                  #128
                  Hahaha sweet!!! About how fast would u day it went??

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                  • drwayne
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • May 2008
                    • 2981

                    #129
                    Originally posted by Megabiker98
                    Hahaha sweet!!! About how fast would u day it went??
                    65mph+
                    Became dangerous to drive much over half throttle.. reliant on prop thrust to keep direction .. ( my jaw dropped....)steering is woefully poor, do need to address that to circulate inside these concrete walled ponds !.......

                    videos look a blast !

                    tore a M3 bolt from servo mount ! .. damn there's some forces here.
                    Have higher torque servo.. is possible the used has insufficient to turn against the twin thrust cones .. ?
                    Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
                    @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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                    • Heaving Earth
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 1877

                      #130
                      It's possible. Try it. Had you thought about putting a longer narrower rudder on? Maybe short and wide isn't the best option

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                      • Megabiker98
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 253

                        #131
                        The not so great turning could just have todo with the hull, if u think about it, the full scale drag boats have bloody TERRIBLE turning radius's!!!!

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                        • drwayne
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • May 2008
                          • 2981

                          #132
                          Originally posted by Heaving Earth
                          It's possible. Try it. Had you thought about putting a longer narrower rudder on? Maybe short and wide isn't the best option
                          5.5" x 1" now....extends 2.5 below prop centre.
                          here is the list of maybes
                          1. maybe rudder servo too weak ( 13Kg)
                          2. maybe thrust cones from both props, with rudder 1" behind, degrades steering due aeration/turbulation ?
                          2a. however the water pickups on rudder performed well, with outlets spraying2 foot to the side as it passed.
                          3. maybe needs a larger turn fin ( has 3x2" now )
                          4. maybe it's just overpowered ( eek, slap me quick ! )
                          Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
                          @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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                          • 785boats
                            Wet Track Racing
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 3169

                            #133
                            Doc.
                            Have you thought of reversing the props (& shafts) & motor direction so that the props turn in at the top instead of out. I know that one way is better than the other but I can't remember which.
                            Also, I know that it is a different kettle of fish, but the big twin riggers have the props spinning the same way or they just won't turn. Could it be the same with a twin V with the drives close together?
                            See the danger. THEN DO IT ANYWAY!!!
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                            • drwayne
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • May 2008
                              • 2981

                              #134
                              Originally posted by Megabiker98
                              The not so great turning could just have todo with the hull, if u think about it, the full scale drag boats have bloody TERRIBLE turning radius's!!!!
                              Hydros pivot around the turnfin.
                              The rudder moveent induces yaw which turns the boat.
                              Rudder movement here did nothing.
                              Either the rudder did not move ( servo too weak ?) or the prop wash blew beyond that rudder movement.
                              I know the last 1.5" in is water, as the pickups work well, but above that.. perhaps those top 4" are all froth and bubbles ?
                              Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
                              @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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                              • Megabiker98
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 253

                                #135
                                Ya true!!! Ya do u have counter rotating props??? And if u have an extra servo laying around can't hurt to try that out!!!

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