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  • dasboata
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Dec 2010
    • 3152

    #181
    Originally posted by banixj
    IMHO is not so "stock" use 4.35v/cell...
    not stock ? everyone has a choice to put whatever batteries they want in the boat ,, the boat don't come with batteries and the stock boat had 420 5000 in it ?

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    • banixj
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 107

      #182
      ESC spec is 4.2v/cell so no stock
      higher voltage = higher power so it's a mod
      but i don't want to fight... final result is astonishing and i'd like to try 4.35V/cell too!!!!
      HPR 115 kevlar bulletproof @90mph, MHZ Rapid carbonfiber, Bingo Race Minieco
      Futaba AIR TX/RX system with telemetry

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      • MADRCER
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2017
        • 751

        #183
        Originally posted by dasboata
        not stock ? everyone has a choice to put whatever batteries they want in the boat ,, the boat don't come with batteries and the stock boat had 420 5000 in it ?
        I agree Chris. The boat calls for 6s to each esc and that's what I put to it... 6s with (2) 3s lipos capable of safely being charged to 4.35 volt per cell.


        Originally posted by banixj
        ESC spec is 4.2v/cell so no stock
        higher voltage = higher power so it's a mod
        but i don't want to fight... final result is astonishing and i'd like to try 4.35V/cell too!!!!

        "Originally Posted by fweasel

        MADRCER, are you charging your Revo 435 LiHV packs to 4.35V?
        Cool! Carbon fiber inlay's, OSE flex cables, wire drives, sharpened rudders, polished flex shafts, and aftermarket props all are mods as well if you look at it that way. Keagan can put me back down to my previous best which was 77.05 mph (which isn't a bad run at all) if it's a problem with my boat not meeting the specs to be considered a "stock electronics boat". That number has stood for a few months without anyone coming close to it and that run was on (4)-3s lipos charged to 4.2v per cell (the maximum for the 3s Gens Ace 5500mAh). The real eyebrow raising question is going to come up when me or someone puts the new Zelos twin 3831 motors (which I already have waiting to be installed in mine) and possibly set a blistering pace....Will that be a considered a modified run? or will one have to buy a new boat just so it comes out of the box with the new 3831 motors installed from the factory like they are shipping now and make a run with that boat instead of the boat I currently run? IMHO I would also propose that runs that beat someone's speed for the top spot must be required to show video proof with the GPS cleared and in the boat before and after the run or you must have the gps with the logger software that show where the boat was running in the lake with the speed stamped on the map in order to be 100% qualified for a top spot trophy. Please let me know everyone's thoughts.
        Last edited by MADRCER; 10-18-2017, 10:36 PM.
        TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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        • CraigP
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • May 2017
          • 1464

          #184
          Are these the LipoGraphene packs? Do you feel the voltage is holding up like a normal pack? I've been waiting for some actual field experience, you know, that they don't turn into flares!

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          • CraigP
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • May 2017
            • 1464

            #185
            Usually we think of puffed batteries has a rather permenant change. So these batteries puffed, then returned to normal size? If you see that again, could you grab some pics and post? These batts are going to be a learning process for us all. With the volt gain, if they're robust, I'm sure they will dominate in competition. Thanks!

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            • vinnyp
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2017
              • 283

              #186
              [QUOTE=MADRCER;698507 Cool! Carbon fiber inlay's, OSE flex cables, wire drives, sharpened rudders, polished flex shafts, and aftermarket props all are mods as well if you look at it that way. Keagan can put me back down to my previous best which was 77.05 mph (which isn't a bad run at all) if it's a problem with my boat not meeting the specs to be considered a "stock electronics boat". That number has stood for a few months without anyone coming close to it and that run was on (4)-3s lipos charged to 4.2v per cell (the maximum for the 3s Gens Ace 5500mAh). The real eyebrow raising question is going to come up when me or someone puts the new Zelos twin 3831 motors (which I already have waiting to be installed) in mine and possibly set a blistering pace....Will that be a considered a modified run? or will one have to buy a new boat just so it comes out of the box with the new 3831 motors installed from the factory like they are shipping now and make a run with that boat instead of the boat I currently run? IMHO I would also propose that runs that beat someone's speed for the top spot must be required to show video proof with the GPS cleared and in the boat before and after the run or you must have the gps with the logger software that show where the boat was running in the lake with the speed stamped on the map in order to be 100% qualified for a top spot trophy. Please let me know everyone's thoughts.[/QUOTE]

              I am with you on this one. Compared to you guys I am only an amateur. It would take me a looong time to be able to run those speed numbers, if at all. We all screw around with our boats, that's what its all about. As for me, after I install my new 3930's, I will be on the bottom of Keagans modified list.
              Last edited by vinnyp; 08-22-2017, 08:36 PM.

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              • Erroneous
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2016
                • 451

                #187
                I can vouch for the gopacks over the old silver labels. The IRs are lower, run slightly cooler and no minor puff on hard runs. Ive slammed these things in my 1/8 monster buggy (TP4050 2100kv, quickrun150 and geared for 90mph) in 108* Sacramento heat and taken them down to 3.2v/cell doing it. I just had to know before lining up 4 packs in a boat.... On the flip side I feel everone is looking for a "bulletproof"LIPO... Not possible... These things dump a ton of power in a short time, abuse this and pay......... To add, I only charge them to 4.275 at 1c...
                Last edited by Erroneous; 08-22-2017, 08:33 PM.

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                • Keagan-Z06
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 970

                  #188
                  ESC timing for me is not considered a mod. So the structure of the list remains the same, it would be very hard at this point to go back and find what everyone ran. Batteries are a free for all option IMO. As long as the motors and ESC remain the same, it's considered stock.
                  Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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                  • Keagan-Z06
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 970

                    #189
                    Ok, so who has those 1715's in stock?
                    Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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                    • MADRCER
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2017
                      • 751

                      #190
                      Either everyone is hoarding them up or they aren't available. I may have some info that could help. If you haven't found any and are still looking PM me.
                      TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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                      • vinnyp
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 283

                        #191
                        Originally posted by Keagan-Z06
                        Ok, so who has those 1715's in stock?
                        Keagan,
                        I got my 1814's from these guys. Not exactly sure which you are looking for, but they have this 1715 but only left handed.

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                        • dasboata
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 3152

                          #192
                          Originally posted by vinnyp
                          Keagan,
                          I got my 1814's from these guys. Not exactly sure which you are looking for, but they have this 1715 but only left handed.
                          https://www.modellbaucenterlorenz.de...-45-2-cll.html
                          Are those ABC brand ???

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                          • vinnyp
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 283

                            #193
                            Originally posted by dasboata
                            Are those ABC brand ???
                            Yes they are ABC's..

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                            • MADRCER
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2017
                              • 751

                              #194
                              Stock Zelos hits 80.77mph (130kmh)

                              I had to give the Z a little loving today and I had a couple of pretty good test runs with my new 1716 props from Chris (Dasboata). On this run the motor mount came loose and caused the flex to bind up and rub with the tight Teflon liner and caused the ESC to go into thermal shutdown, so I had to limp back to the shore with only full power to one motor. Everything appears ok except the flex. The top recorded speed on this run was 80.77mph (130kmh). Also a BIG THANKS to my "Propsmith" (Chris) again for another AWESOME set of blades! Keagan can you update me? Below are the results from my best run today.

                              Member MADRCER
                              MPH: 80.77mph (130kmh)
                              Prop: ABC 1716-17-45 Dasboata
                              ESC: Stock with timing 7.5
                              Motor: Stock
                              Batteries: 4x3s Gens Ace 5500mAh 45c (11.1v)

                              80.77mph zelps 8-25-17.jpg 80.77mph zelps 8-25-17.JPG 2.jpg 80mph record run zelos.jpg 80mph pic in boat.JPG

                              Last edited by MADRCER; 08-26-2017, 12:10 PM.
                              TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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                              • REDLINE1
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2016
                                • 199

                                #195
                                Originally posted by MADRCER
                                I had to give the Z a little loving today and I had a couple of pretty good test runs with my new 1716 props from Chris (Dasboata). On this run the motor mount came loose and caused the flex to bind up and rub with the tight Teflon liner and caused the ESC to go into thermal shutdown, so I had to limp back to the shore with only full power to one motor. Everything appears ok except the flex. The top recorded speed on this run was 80.77mph (130kmh). Also a BIG THANKS to my "Propsmith" (Chris) again for another AWESOME set of blades! Keagan can you update me? Below are the results from my best run today.

                                Member MADRCER
                                MPH: 80.77mph (130kmh)
                                Prop: ABC 1716-17-45 Dasboata
                                ESC: Stock with timing 7.5
                                Motor: Stock
                                Batteries: 4x3s Gens Ace 5500mAh 45c (11.1v)

                                [ATTACH=CONFIG]153514[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]153515[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]153516[/ATTACH]

                                What are yr plans for the repair. Can u re epoxy the mount?

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