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  • racerr73
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 133

    #391
    Hi Rafael.

    How do you get 5 times more power out of the a3630-1800kv 6 pole motor the impulse 31 uses , and the impulse 31 uses a 80amp esc. Can you confirm what motors you are using please.

    Thanks
    Trev

    Originally posted by Rafael_Lopez
    Darin, I've never seen past 65 with it, stock, with those props. I stopped GPSing after the 2 lap event, honestly.

    Keagen, I forget what props those are. Someone asked on YouTube, I replied in the video's comments. I'm not running the stock motors either. I'm running Impulse 31 motors which make nearly 5 times more power, each, compared to the stock motors. No issues running with the stock ESCs; the Impulse uses the same ESC.

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    • Rafael_Lopez
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2015
      • 470

      #392
      Originally posted by racerr73
      Hi Rafael.

      How do you get 5 times more power out of the a3630-1800kv 6 pole motor the impulse 31 uses , and the impulse 31 uses a 80amp esc. Can you confirm what motors you are using please.

      Thanks
      Trev
      You don't get nearly 5 times more power from A3630-1800kv. You get 2300 watts from DYNM3930, 1750kv 4 pole. We're not talking about the same motor or the same ESC.

      I'm talking about the current Impulse 31V3 motor.
      Rafael Lopez
      Product Developer-Pro Boat
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      • Yellow
        Member
        • Jan 2016
        • 81

        #393
        I'm confused...

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        • Keagan-Z06
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2016
          • 970

          #394
          Went to the river today. Mustered a measly 56.7mph. Ambient temps were 102 deg. Will try again in better conditions, hopefully by then I do some of the tips kfx gave me. Will try and sharpen props more too.
          Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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          • Erroneous
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2016
            • 451

            #395
            Originally posted by Rafael_Lopez
            They come packaged in quantity of 1. If you are getting vibration, balance your prop. A well balance prop will show 0 vibration.
            $65 for one strut? Im not a stickler over prices very often but that is a little crazy. I'll search elsewhere. I think the bushing is getting worn. 20+runs. Everything looks ballanced and true, does it with other props as well. Hooked the shaft to a drill and spins perfectly, no wobble. It is a very slight vibration while running on the bench. Maybe I'm just being picky.

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            • kfxguy
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Oct 2013
              • 8746

              #396
              Originally posted by Erroneous
              $65 for one strut? Im not a stickler over prices very often but that is a little crazy. I'll search elsewhere. I think the bushing is getting worn. 20+runs. Everything looks ballanced and true, does it with other props as well. Hooked the shaft to a drill and spins perfectly, no wobble. It is a very slight vibration while running on the bench. Maybe I'm just being picky.

              I'll agree that I thought the struts were a little pricey but we have to consider that the hardware on this boat isn't cheap cheesy stuff like on most rtrs. I like the struts so much that I bought an extra set so I can use them on my 32" cat I'm building. If you need to replace the bushings in them I'd be willing to bet you could make some out of brass tubing and jb weld or loctite in place. Maybe Raphael has a better suggestion, I need to replace mine while mine is apart anyway.


              I will say, and I mean no offense, but some of you guys are expecting things to be perfect in every way and expect it to last forever. Proboat does an awesome job of bringing us a good product at a good price. I build boats that cost twice as much and you'll still run across an issue here and there. Understand that Raphael does not personally assemble these boats nor does he make any of the components. So please, ease up a little on him. He does the best job I've ever seen in what he's doing and makes time to help you guys out in any way he can. If I was in his shoes at this point I would have grown tired of what he's doing by now. So be thankful. This is a badass boat out the box. It has lots of potential and sometimes things are always perfect. If you can turn a screwdriver you can fix most of the little issues here and there.
              32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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              • Erroneous
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2016
                • 451

                #397
                Originally posted by kfxguy
                I'll agree that I thought the struts were a little pricey but we have to consider that the hardware on this boat isn't cheap cheesy stuff like on most rtrs. I like the struts so much that I bought an extra set so I can use them on my 32" cat I'm building. If you need to replace the bushings in them I'd be willing to bet you could make some out of brass tubing and jb weld or loctite in place. Maybe Raphael has a better suggestion, I need to replace mine while mine is apart anyway.


                I will say, and I mean no offense, but some of you guys are expecting things to be perfect in every way and expect it to last forever. Proboat does an awesome job of bringing us a good product at a good price. I build boats that cost twice as much and you'll still run across an issue here and there. Understand that Raphael does not personally assemble these boats nor does he make any of the components. So please, ease up a little on him. He does the best job I've ever seen in what he's doing and makes time to help you guys out in any way he can. If I was in his shoes at this point I would have grown tired of what he's doing by now. So be thankful. This is a badass boat out the box. It has lots of potential and sometimes things are always perfect. If you can turn a screwdriver you can fix most of the little issues here and there.
                I agree on all fronts. I only ask here because the knowledge here is otherworldly. I also understand that with my current setup I'm pussing the limits of any hardware. I mean no disrespect at all with my opinions. I actually have a great deal of respect for you and "most" others here and love the fact of gaining so much knowledge in one place.... Im hooked and don't think I'm going anywhere anytime soon.. Hopes of a controllable 90mph boat may lead me to another build but I'm allmost there with this one.. Party on.

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                • Erroneous
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 451

                  #398
                  A forum like this would have saved me a ton of time and money with my nitro, gas and elec on/off road rigs. As for the Horizon/ Proboat guys on here, your time passion and effort is what sets you apart from other vendors and is much appreciated.

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                  • kfxguy
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 8746

                    #399
                    Originally posted by Erroneous
                    I agree on all fronts. I only ask here because the knowledge here is otherworldly. I also understand that with my current setup I'm pussing the limits of any hardware. I mean no disrespect at all with my opinions. I actually have a great deal of respect for you and "most" others here and love the fact of gaining so much knowledge in one place.... Im hooked and don't think I'm going anywhere anytime soon.. Hopes of a controllable 90mph boat may lead me to another build but I'm allmost there with this one.. Party on.


                    Well the hardware on this boat would easily support anything you throw at it (when I say hardware I mean the struts, shafts, rudder etc). Thx for the respect, I try hard to help whoever I can. The more people in this hobby the better things get for all of us.
                    32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                    • ChevyPrerunner
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 205

                      #400
                      Love this boat more and more with each outing. I spent about 2 hours working the stock props last night and got up to 59.9 mph today at the stock 4mm strut settings. I'm pretty sure if I spend a few more hours on these props I can get another 5mph outta them :) love it man!!


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                      • Keagan-Z06
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 970

                        #401
                        Good job!
                        Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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                        • Erroneous
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 451

                          #402
                          Any thoughts on running these? http://keithbradleyboats.com/product/76mm-mtc-drive/ They are slightly longer than stock. Stock struts are roughly 60mm.

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                          • Erroneous
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 451

                            #403
                            :comment removed:
                            Last edited by Erroneous; 05-30-2016, 12:29 AM.

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                            • Team Lucas
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2016
                              • 300

                              #404
                              Chevyprerunner, what batteries are you using to get that speed? im new to electric and just learning about batteries
                              Zelos 36 stock 68 mph

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                              • Darin Jordan
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 8335

                                #405
                                Originally posted by Erroneous
                                Any thoughts on running these? http://keithbradleyboats.com/product/76mm-mtc-drive/ They are slightly longer than stock. Stock struts are roughly 60mm.
                                WHY do you want "longer than stock"?

                                I can tell you from personal experience with this boat that longer struts will give you trimming issues.

                                Not sure what you are looking to gain, but I don't think this is the right direction.
                                Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                                "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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