Just joined the 100 mph+ club

[Luck as a Constant]

My old Etrex used to give me reading that weren't that accurate.
Oh well I stand corrected I guess. Whatev tho


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[kevinpratt823]

Wait for it Kevin......you do notice that one reads 1/10 mph off than the others. LOL

Well, to be fair, I started resetting them waiting at a stop sign but had to start driving, maybe the extra tenth was me reaching forward to place it on the dashboard while I was moving lol.

I am going to try it some more and see if it's consistently off, as that one has been around a while, leaked water, repeatedly disassembled, and just recently found that it was leaking through the lens, so I silicone it up good. If it takes a good hit, the ribbon cable that operates the buttons becomes dislodged and I have to open it to get it back in place.

[kevinpratt823]

Great job Kevin that is not easy to do !!!

Thanks Chris, you know you played a part in my success

I just ran the 2 sets of props you just did for me on 7s, all I can say is that if I run one of these sets on 8s on a nice day this thread may become a little less relevant.....

[dasboata]

Thank you Kevin put them 8 in lol


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[MarkF]

Congrats Kevin

Some put GPS units in there saw boats here and found them to be within 1 or 2 mph of the traps. I think that makes them good enough for bragging rights and you should feel good about what you did.
The difference with the numbers you get from running through a trap is you have to maintain that speed for a longer time and then do it again going the opposite way. Much more difficult than a quick pass before the boat blows over. That doesn't mean you can't reproduce that speed at an event. You most certainly can. It just means you might have to work at it a little bit. That's why saw records are more looked up to because they are harder to do than GPS records. Your new accomplishment says your ready to come have fun at a saw event. These events are really about having fun and helping each other.It's not what some on here will say it is. People will give you there best prop to help you get a record or loan you a speed control. It's all about the fun and when you do break a record. It feels really good.

Mark

[properchopper]

Congrats Kevin

Some put GPS units in there saw boats here and found them to be within 1 or 2 mph of the traps. I think that makes them good enough for bragging rights and you should feel good about what you did.
The difference with the numbers you get from running through a trap is you have to maintain that speed for a longer time and then do it again going the opposite way. Much more difficult than a quick pass before the boat blows over. That doesn't mean you can't reproduce that speed at an event. You most certainly can. It just means you might have to work at it a little bit. That's why saw records are more looked up to because they are harder to do than GPS records. Your new accomplishment says your ready to come have fun at a saw event. These events are really about having fun and helping each other.It's not what some on here will say it is. People will give you there best prop to help you get a record or loan you a speed control.


It's all about the fun and when you do break a record. It feels really good.

Mark

especially a long-standing WR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF6_64igqGI

[keithbradley]

Congrats Kevin

Some put GPS units in there saw boats here and found them to be within 1 or 2 mph of the traps. I think that makes them good enough for bragging rights and you should feel good about what you did.
The difference with the numbers you get from running through a trap is you have to maintain that speed for a longer time and then do it again going the opposite way. Much more difficult than a quick pass before the boat blows over. That doesn't mean you can't reproduce that speed at an event. You most certainly can. It just means you might have to work at it a little bit. That's why saw records are more looked up to because they are harder to do than GPS records. Your new accomplishment says your ready to come have fun at a saw event. These events are really about having fun and helping each other.It's not what some on here will say it is. People will give you there best prop to help you get a record or loan you a speed control. It's all about the fun and when you do break a record. It feels really good.

Mark

Great post Mark. As I mentioned earlier, I haven't heard the "GPS isn't accurate" argument in a long time. I think people hear "GPS speeds are not the same as SAW records" and somehow turn it in to a GPS accuracy argument.

Kevin, I think that the GPS test above is a bit out of context here because you're keeping a steady speed. You should put all three in the boat and accelerate to high speed but don't maintain it. As soon as you get up to speed let off and then bring the boat back. I would be curious to see the results.

The Garmins are obviously calibrated better than the little hobby GPS units we use. I have some of those that will produce a pretty varied readout.

[kevinpratt823]

Thanks Mark, I have actually begun considering the trek to one of these events, maybe next year, if I stick with this style of running.

Keith, I have no doubt that as the time at top speed decreases the numbers may vary more because they don't refresh quick enough or at the same times, that is precisely why I make long passes if I'm looking to get a good reading of top speed. When I make these passes, the logging shows approx 10 seconds from start to let off- 7 seconds of gradual acceleration with about 3 seconds WOT at the end(it's a big pond). When I get the fiberglass hatch though, that would be an interesting experiment, both with a long pass and a short one. Until I get that hatch squared away though, I don't think I want to tape all 3 of my GPS' to the top of the boat lol.

And actually, in my other thread where I posted 7 different sets of the 3 gps readings, I was in heavy stop and go highway traffic, all of those were taken while accelerating as high as I could continuously, without looking like a jerk on the highway, then immediately going from gas to brakes before I ran out of room with the cars in front of me, it was not at all a steady speed.

[kevinpratt823]

Speaking of SAW events, what is the current record for a boat of this nature? I'm guessing I'm still quite a ways away from it.

[keithbradley]

Thanks Mark, I have actually begun considering the trek to one of these events, maybe next year, if I stick with this style of running.

Keith, I have no doubt that as the time at top speed decreases the numbers may vary more because they don't refresh quick enough or at the same times, that is precisely why I make long passes if I'm looking to get a good reading of top speed. When I make these passes, the logging shows approx 10 seconds from start to let off- 7 seconds of gradual acceleration with about 3 seconds WOT at the end(it's a big pond). When I get the fiberglass hatch though, that would be an interesting experiment, both with a long pass and a short one. Until I get that hatch squared away though, I don't think I want to tape all 3 of my GPS' to the top of the boat lol.

And actually, in my other thread where I posted 7 different sets of the 3 gps readings, I was in heavy stop and go highway traffic, all of those were taken while accelerating as high as I could continuously, without looking like a jerk on the highway, then immediately going from gas to brakes before I ran out of room with the cars in front of me, it was not at all a steady speed.

I forgot that you were taping them to the outside of the boat. LOL

As your boat gets faster it can become more difficult to get an accurate reading. It sounds like you have a large body of water to run in but you still might be surprised at the refresh rate variations between some models (The 3 garmins you have may be very similar, I don't know...that's what made me think of the test I suggested). I had one in a boat that kept reading lower than I knew the boat was running, and it turned out to be a poor refresh on that unit.

[keithbradley]

Speaking of SAW events, what is the current record for a boat of this nature? I'm guessing I'm still quite a ways away from it.

Since you're on the east coast I assume you would run IMPBA (the only SAW events in NAMBA are currently held in Cali). You would be S-cat. I'm not sure of the exact speed but I think it's around 113. Definitely beatable if you get the right conditions and the right setup.

[TRUCKPULL]

Since you're on the east coast I assume you would run IMPBA (the only SAW events in NAMBA are currently held in Cali). You would be S-cat. I'm not sure of the exact speed but I think it's around 113. Definitely beatable if you get the right conditions and the right setup.

Keith
The Cat is already out of the bag, so to say.
In Michigan on May. 3. 2015
Keith set a new IMPBA record for "S" Cat
Here is part of the report.
Keith Kirchen had his big cats flying and upped the S catamaran SAW to 1.998 sec or 112.613 mph with a fast pass of 113.065. Keith still has the fastest pass ever made at Thread Lake at 119.490 mph.

Larry

[Doug Smock]

Kevin,
The NAMBA S Cat record is 132.042.

[keithbradley]

Keith
The Cat is already out of the bag, so to say.
In Michigan on May. 3. 2015
Keith set a new IMPBA record for "S" Cat
Here is part of the report.
Keith Kirchen had his big cats flying and upped the S catamaran SAW to 1.998 sec or 112.613 mph with a fast pass of 113.065. Keith still has the fastest pass ever made at Thread Lake at 119.490 mph.

Larry

Thanks Larry, so I guess 112.613, although as far as a I know that's still pending approval from the records director. Either way, I think it was around 110 prior to that run so it's not going to change much.
Definitely beatable with Kevin's 45.
Kevin, if you are up for making the trip to Michigan this fall I would be glad to help you with the boat. If mother nature cooperates I'm sure we could get you that record.

[kevinpratt823]

Thanks Larry, so I guess 112.613, although as far as a I know that's still pending approval from the records director. Either way, I think it was around 110 prior to that run so it's not going to change much.
Definitely beatable with Kevin's 45.
Kevin, if you are up for making the trip to Michigan this fall I would be glad to help you with the boat. If mother nature cooperates I'm sure we could get you that record.

Thanks Keith, I will consider it, that of course is pending that the boat is still in one piece at that point
I have little knowledge of these events, but I do understand that passing through the traps would be a very different undertaking, and I would definitely have to work on accelerating to speed much quicker than what I am currently doing, I can't imagine that there is nearly as much run up as what I use on these passes to keep me in the comfort zone.

I am also very curious now to make some passes with all 3 gps' in the boat and see how they read.