35" DF Pirate 1st build.

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  • KartRacer
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 355

    #106
    Originally posted by lenny
    Nice,
    I never work with CF yet.
    Glass yes on my manx 61 buggy,
    You should be fine with the 5.5 all the way.
    But 6.5 gives more head room for HV setups,
    I think 5.5 is good on the cells to esc for different s cells to try from one boat to another,
    To keep it easy if some one has 4s or 5s to try for cruising speeds.
    Thanks Lenny
    I am going to run 6.5 bullets on batteries , just wondered if it made sense to remove the 5.5 that came on the motor or just run them.
    KartRacer ~ Dennis B
    Delta Force Pirate 35'~Leopard 4092~1480Kv~Seaking 180~2X6S 65C 5000 Mha Dynogy Lipo,Parallel

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    • dana
      Banned
      • Mar 2010
      • 3573

      #107
      No prob guys. Build looking good so far

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      • KartRacer
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 355

        #108
        Installing hardware

        Another good day of building. I think things are progressing well. As usual, comments on the pictures/build are very welcome. I am not sure about the strength of the motor mount with all of that weight clamped to it. I may add a strip of Fiberglass to reinforce it at the base. In the picture of the rudder and right trim tabs, I tried to show my modification to get the correct height of the trim tab. we'll see what everyone thinks, not that I can change it now :) Batteries, receiver box and data logger should be in this week and I can finally get the cog set.
        Thanks
        Dennis

        DF 091512 01.jpgDF 091512 2.jpgDF 091512 3.jpgDF 091512 4.jpgDF 091512 5.jpg
        KartRacer ~ Dennis B
        Delta Force Pirate 35'~Leopard 4092~1480Kv~Seaking 180~2X6S 65C 5000 Mha Dynogy Lipo,Parallel

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        • dana
          Banned
          • Mar 2010
          • 3573

          #109
          Well... If the mount isn't glued in well, a strip of fiberglass isn't gonna make any difference, it will rip rite out.

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          • dana
            Banned
            • Mar 2010
            • 3573

            #110
            Everything looks good tho. I personally would have mounted my trim tabs and stinger a bit lower,but I'm still learning myself -)

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            • Make-a-Wake
              FE Rules!
              • Nov 2009
              • 5557

              #111
              Mounting looks good from what i can see. Did you allow the epoxy to flow thru the holes near the bottom of each side mount?
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              • KartRacer
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 355

                #112
                Originally posted by Make-a-Wake
                Mounting looks good from what i can see. Did you allow the epoxy to flow thru the holes near the bottom of each side mount?
                Yes I placed epoxy slowly to the outside of the mount allowing it to build up and flow through the holes. There is a good amount of epoxy on both inside and outside forming a wedge to the hull. It will probably be just fine when it all hardens up. I never worked with a motor that large and heavy before.
                Dana, placed the trims according to suggestions and other threads. Actually would have put them another mm higher but just did not have the room with the larger rudder. The stinger is set the same way and to the right, I think 3/16" was the suggestion to compensate for prop thrust.
                Thanks for the input everyone.
                Last edited by KartRacer; 09-16-2012, 09:02 PM. Reason: Fix iPad correction:)
                KartRacer ~ Dennis B
                Delta Force Pirate 35'~Leopard 4092~1480Kv~Seaking 180~2X6S 65C 5000 Mha Dynogy Lipo,Parallel

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                • lenny
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 4293

                  #113
                  Looking nice,

                  Picture #2, Could you take one like that but from center back of transom,
                  It would just give better view of the hardware setup.

                  Did you sand the hull good where the motor mount is before you epoxy the mount in place ?
                  ? ONLY IF THEY WORK

                  My youtube videos.http://www.youtube.com/user/61manx?feature=mhee

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                  • KartRacer
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 355

                    #114
                    Originally posted by lenny
                    Looking nice,

                    Picture #2, Could you take one like that but from center back of transom,
                    It would just give better view of the hardware setup.

                    Did you sand the hull good where the motor mount is before you epoxy the mount in place ?
                    Lenny
                    I'll take that picture view tomorrow.
                    No I did not sand the epoxy/CF. felt it would melt into the epoxy. Now I'm really worried! Should I cut it out?
                    KartRacer ~ Dennis B
                    Delta Force Pirate 35'~Leopard 4092~1480Kv~Seaking 180~2X6S 65C 5000 Mha Dynogy Lipo,Parallel

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                    • lenny
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 4293

                      #115
                      That's cool with the picture for just a better look at things.
                      Not sure on the melting thing,
                      But it may be ok, With out the sanding,
                      Just better to sand it for a better bond.
                      Does it feel strong to you ?
                      Try holding the boat by the motor and see if it feels strong.
                      ? ONLY IF THEY WORK

                      My youtube videos.http://www.youtube.com/user/61manx?feature=mhee

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                      • dana
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 3573

                        #116
                        Dood ALWAYS sand the crap outta the area you're glueing to. Try to rip it out by hand... If it comes out, it was no good to start with. You need to sand very well with 80 grit to ensure it bonds

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                        • KartRacer
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 355

                          #117
                          Well I'm going to let it harden overnight and test. I'll just add that to the list of learning curve. If it's strong then fine, if not like Dana said it will have to be redone. I'll sand before installing everything else of course
                          KartRacer ~ Dennis B
                          Delta Force Pirate 35'~Leopard 4092~1480Kv~Seaking 180~2X6S 65C 5000 Mha Dynogy Lipo,Parallel

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                          • srislash
                            Not there yet
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 7673

                            #118
                            If the other epoxy from the layup isn't too old (cured) it will probably be fine

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                            • lenny
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 4293

                              #119
                              Better knowing now than in the lake some where.


                              Hey I use hot glue gun some times to mount stuff for temporary testing new setups and mods.
                              ? ONLY IF THEY WORK

                              My youtube videos.http://www.youtube.com/user/61manx?feature=mhee

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                              • KartRacer
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 355

                                #120
                                line of site transom Pic

                                Originally posted by lenny
                                That's cool with the picture for just a better look at things.
                                Not sure on the melting thing,
                                But it may be ok, With out the sanding,
                                Just better to sand it for a better bond.
                                Does it feel strong to you ?
                                Try holding the boat by the motor and see if it feels strong.
                                Lenny
                                Appears I have dodged a bullet. Motor is rock solid! Here is picture you requested.
                                Transom Pic 1.JPG
                                KartRacer ~ Dennis B
                                Delta Force Pirate 35'~Leopard 4092~1480Kv~Seaking 180~2X6S 65C 5000 Mha Dynogy Lipo,Parallel

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