35" DF Pirate 1st build.

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  • Skullcracken
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 617

    #151
    Originally posted by KartRacer
    Thanks tlandauer
    Yes, I'll have to controll the excitement so I am thorough on the build.
    That is a great running boat. I have one with a 4082 leopard 1600kv on 6s and it runs great.

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    • KartRacer
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 355

      #152
      Originally posted by Skullcracken
      That is a great running boat. I have one with a 4082 leopard 1600kv on 6s and it runs great.
      Skullcracken
      Would you share your setup?
      Can use all the help I can get!
      KartRacer ~ Dennis B
      Delta Force Pirate 35'~Leopard 4092~1480Kv~Seaking 180~2X6S 65C 5000 Mha Dynogy Lipo,Parallel

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      • Skullcracken
        Senior Member
        • May 2010
        • 617

        #153
        Leopard 4082 1600kv. Seaking 180. 3/16 shaft. Two 3s 40c 5000mah lipos in series. x445 prop. Offset rudder. The leopard 4092 1480kv setup on your boat would probably let you go up to a x447 prop. You can do the 2x6s in parallel, but the extra weight will slow you down.

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        • Skullcracken
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 617

          #154
          If you've already commited to 6s lipos. Rig your wiring so you can change from series to parallel back and forth. Use your 6s lipos in parallel for rougher water, and get 3s lipos to run in series when its smoother for faster speed (because of the lighter weight). 3s 40c 5000mah Turnigy lipos would only be about $28 each.

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          • KartRacer
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 355

            #155
            Originally posted by Skullcracken
            If you've already commited to 6s lipos. Rig your wiring so you can change from series to parallel back and forth. Use your 6s lipos in parallel for rougher water, and get 3s lipos to run in series when its smoother for faster speed (because of the lighter weight). 3s 40c 5000mah Turnigy lipos would only be about $28 each.
            That is a great idea and wiring change will be easy. Don't know how cog will be affected though.
            What kind of speed are you getting?
            KartRacer ~ Dennis B
            Delta Force Pirate 35'~Leopard 4092~1480Kv~Seaking 180~2X6S 65C 5000 Mha Dynogy Lipo,Parallel

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            • KartRacer
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 355

              #156
              Getting ESC programmed was easy. Had only a small issue with the binding receiver. Buuuuuut can not get ESC to program for throttle. Steering works correctly but throttle will not. Programming sheet is not very clear. I tried using BEC in the 180 plugged into channel two with no luck then tried separate receiver battery in battery port on receiver also with no success. Got tired messing with it and opened bottle of wine. Deal with it again Saturday. :) any suggestions or comments are always welcome!
              KartRacer ~ Dennis B
              Delta Force Pirate 35'~Leopard 4092~1480Kv~Seaking 180~2X6S 65C 5000 Mha Dynogy Lipo,Parallel

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              • dana
                Banned
                • Mar 2010
                • 3573

                #157
                What radio? Usually the throttle channel needs to be set to reverse.

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                • dana
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 3573

                  #158
                  Your 6s lipos will give you much better runtimes and 3s will give you a mile or two more mph. Nothing really huge.

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                  • lenny
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 4293

                    #159
                    What tx are you using and do you have the program card for the esc ?

                    Set the esc cell count to auto for now.

                    I am using a Tactic and I set my TH. trim to full and N & R to R.

                    You will need to calibrate the throttle range first of the transmitter,

                    When you first use the controller or when using a new and different transmitter or receiver.

                    1 move the throttle stick to full and hold it their, I use a bread tie around it to hold it.

                    2 Turn on the tx and than connect a 2s or 3s battery pack to the esc and wait 2 seconds for beep beep,

                    3 Than release the bread tie and you will hear a beep and you are finished calibrating the tx.
                    Last edited by lenny; 09-28-2012, 12:03 AM.
                    ? ONLY IF THEY WORK

                    My youtube videos.http://www.youtube.com/user/61manx?feature=mhee

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                    • Skullcracken
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 617

                      #160
                      Originally posted by dana
                      Your 6s lipos will give you much better runtimes and 3s will give you a mile or two more mph. Nothing really huge.
                      True. But on 6s, you don't really want longer run times. That baby will be hot in 5-8 minutes anyway. I just like using smaller batteries in series, I'd even do two 3s batteries in series each side. If you burn up/puff one 6s lipo, you'd be out more than two 3s batteries for the price.

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                      • Skullcracken
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 617

                        #161
                        If you already have the COG figured for the 6s lipos, you'd just move the 3s lipos a little forward. Mine is low 50's with an x445.

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                        • dana
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 3573

                          #162
                          The chances of puffing a 6s pack will be far less than the chance of puffing a 3s pack due to the fact that the two 6s can deliver way more power than the two 3s. I think he is using 4092 motor?

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                          • dana
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 3573

                            #163
                            Also, I might add, that a majority of heat generated in a boat, happens when batteries start to lose their charge, and the motor is asking for more than the batteries can deliver. Things get hot fast.... Either way I want to see this sucker run

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                            • KartRacer
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 355

                              #164
                              Originally posted by lenny
                              What tx are you using and do you have the program card for the esc ?

                              Set the esc cell count to auto for now.

                              I am using a Tactic and I set my TH. trim to full and N & R to R.

                              You will need to calibrate the throttle range first of the transmitter,

                              When you first use the controller or when using a new and different transmitter or receiver.

                              1 move the throttle stick to full and hold it their, I use a bread tie around it to hold it.

                              2 Turn on the tx and than connect a 2s or 3s battery pack to the esc and wait 2 seconds for beep beep,

                              3 Than release the bread tie and you will hear a beep and you are finished calibrating the tx.
                              Thanks Dana&Lenny
                              I am using the new Traxxas TQi with the iPhone interface. I will check tomorrow but may not have throttle set to reverse.
                              So if I understand correctly you plug everything in on the boat, ESC, battery,and motor. This will power up the receiver. Then pull full throttle and turn on transmitter, wait for the two beeps and release for the final beep.
                              Oh and yes I have the program card and programmed the ESC for 6s as recommended by Seaking instructions.
                              Wish me luck, anxious to get this baby running.

                              All water lines are installed and clamped, exit ports in hull and all hardware is lock tighted as needed. I guess I,ll just put 2- two inch strips of Velcro in the hull for the batteries to test cog, then epoxy after I am sure it's correct.
                              Still need to re-in force hatch with CF sheet.
                              I will water test hull tomorrow after I grease the stuffing tube.
                              I appreciate everyone's input and ,Dana hope to prove you wrong on heat:)
                              KartRacer ~ Dennis B
                              Delta Force Pirate 35'~Leopard 4092~1480Kv~Seaking 180~2X6S 65C 5000 Mha Dynogy Lipo,Parallel

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                              • KartRacer
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 355

                                #165
                                Originally posted by Skullcracken
                                If you already have the COG figured for the 6s lipos, you'd just move the 3s lipos a little forward. Mine is low 50's with an x445.
                                Skullcracken
                                Would be thrilled to see 50s with this setup. Oh I see you are concerned on the heat. Again hope you are incorrect because mid summer in Mo is already plenty warm. Much cooler now!
                                KartRacer ~ Dennis B
                                Delta Force Pirate 35'~Leopard 4092~1480Kv~Seaking 180~2X6S 65C 5000 Mha Dynogy Lipo,Parallel

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