Upgrade motors for King of Shaves

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  • forescott
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    • Nov 2009
    • 2686

    #31
    Originally posted by BILL OXIDEAN
    Thanx for the update Forescott! Yes that IS fast for 3s.
    How was the torque? did it launch "snappier', did it hold its speed in the corners?
    Definetly feels torquier. Not sure about the cornering ability. I take the corners like my grandmother in her 1968 mercury cougar. Slow and easy!

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    • FighterCat57
      "The" Fighter Cat
      • Apr 2010
      • 3480

      #32
      Originally posted by BILL OXIDEAN
      Ok boys, back to the project at hand, what I've done here is a procedure I call "carpeting"

      After removing the battery tray, and all of its epoxy residue, i wiped the glass center pod down with solvent to get a clean mating surface, then carpeted the whole belly pan with velcro.

      I like going this route at first to give me versatility in component placement for CG.
      By carpeting, are you using the loop side of the velcro? I get so much "loop lint" when I do it that way. Mix it with a bit of shaft grease and bilge water and it can get nasty. I've started using the hook side on the boat and putting the loop on the devices. Just curious which way it's going in and why. The "carpeted" loop side does help soak up any water inside though. =)
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      • BILL OXIDEAN
        Banned
        • Sep 2008
        • 1494

        #33
        Originally posted by BenjaminR
        By carpeting, are you using the loop side of the velcro? I get so much "loop lint" when I do it that way. Mix it with a bit of shaft grease and bilge water and it can get nasty. I've started using the hook side on the boat and putting the loop on the devices. Just curious which way it's going in and why. The "carpeted" loop side does help soak up any water inside though. =)
        Hey Benjamin, I'm trying to upload pics but it wont let me, I use the hook side in the boat and the "fuzzy" side on devices. Yes the fuzzy soaks a little water, but will also retain water in the hull..

        It dosen't make a huge difference more one of prefference..
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        • BILL OXIDEAN
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          • Sep 2008
          • 1494

          #34
          Speedos

          Turns out the box that came from Novak was speedos..
          2 newer series GTB speedos.

          The new ones have a clear case. I love clear cases..

          I want to try to get away with placing the speedos here..
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          • FighterCat57
            "The" Fighter Cat
            • Apr 2010
            • 3480

            #35
            Originally posted by BILL OXIDEAN
            Hey Benjamin, I'm trying to upload pics but it wont let me, I use the hook side in the boat and the "fuzzy" side on devices. Yes the fuzzy soaks a little water, but will also retain water in the hull..

            It dosen't make a huge difference more one of preference..
            Nice.
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            • forescott
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              • Nov 2009
              • 2686

              #36
              Originally posted by BILL OXIDEAN
              Turns out the box that came from Novak was speedos..
              2 newer series GTB speedos.

              The new ones have a clear case. I love clear cases..

              I want to try to get away with placing the speedos here..
              Where are you gonna put the batteries?

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              • BILL OXIDEAN
                Banned
                • Sep 2008
                • 1494

                #37
                Originally posted by forescott
                Where are you gonna put the batteries?

                Great question sir, I'm going to try and get away with running them in the sponsons just ahead of the motors.

                I idealy run cats that way, it keeps the weight low in the hull, the batteries benefit from the modest cooling, and it seems an all around more stable way to run a cat.

                Next, I'll "carpet" the sponsons..

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                • forescott
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                  • Nov 2009
                  • 2686

                  #38
                  Only problem is, that puts your c.o.g. waaaay forward. It'll be hard to get optimum speed/handling. Worth a try! At least the ekos would lose some of its top-heaviness.

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                  • BILL OXIDEAN
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1494

                    #39
                    Originally posted by forescott
                    Only problem is, that puts your c.o.g. waaaay forward. It'll be hard to get optimum speed/handling. Worth a try! At least the ekos would lose some of its top-heaviness.
                    I agree, but I'm putting a considerable amount more power. Its basicly a SAW setup, it may work or may not but I'm willing to bet the boat will want a little more weight in the front than with the stock setup..

                    Its kinda like when we used to run N-1 and N-2 mono with 21 inch hulls and brushed motors, the N-1 setup runs the battery WAY back, then the N-2 setup had the battery way farther forward..

                    I see the stock setup as very low torque like an N-1 setup but its all yet to be seen.
                    Your concern is definitely a valid one..

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                    • BILL OXIDEAN
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1494

                      #40
                      The beat goes on..

                      OK felloe skippers, I carpeted the inside of the sponsons for battery or speedo placement, whatever this boat lets us get away with..
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                      • BILL OXIDEAN
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1494

                        #41
                        This morning I got up and decided to make a custom 'Y" harness of Novak plugs since using a conventional y harness will make for too many plugs.

                        1) I cut 3 leads to equal length

                        2) Slid shrink wrap over the main input first one big one, then 3 tiny ones to cover each wire

                        3) Next I pre-tinned the wires.

                        4) Now its time to solder them together.

                        5) Next solder the 2 leads together coded by color

                        6) Now its time to solder the 2 output leads to the input lead color coding the wires again

                        7) Now you want to shrink the 3 individual leads

                        8) Slide the larger shrink over the 3 leads and shrink and shrink

                        Now you've done it pal! you're the man! You wired up a custom harness!
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                        • BILL OXIDEAN
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1494

                          #42
                          Putting Out

                          Well well well look what we have here..

                          I found a set of gems that will make this upgrade VERY EEnteresting..
                          Check out these 4mm shafts I found in my ETTI box!

                          One has an aluminum prop nut, and is of high quality steel, and the other has a 1/8 inch step down!!

                          Yes, I do have 2 of each as well lol

                          The 1/8 inch step down opens MANY doors to an assortment of octura props, and will allow me to experiment with some high KV options.

                          I'm brave enough to try a set of Novak Ballistic 3.5 motors in the sucker!

                          Rumor has it that Boca Bearings is sending a set of rubber seal ceramic bearings to hold whatever power we throw at this project..
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                          • BILL OXIDEAN
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1494

                            #43
                            Uh Oh..

                            Look what have we here.. Two sets of top quality orange rubber seal ceramic bearings came in the mail from Boca Bearings.

                            Guys, these are ABEC 7 bearings..
                            Thanx Boca!!
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                            • FighterCat57
                              "The" Fighter Cat
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 3480

                              #44
                              Originally posted by BILL OXIDEAN
                              Look what have we here.. Two sets of top quality orange rubber seal ceramic bearings came in the mail from Boca Bearings.

                              Guys, these are ABEC 7 bearings..
                              Thanx Boca!!
                              Bill, what do you think of the Ceramic Ultra Seal bearings?
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                              • BILL OXIDEAN
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 1494

                                #45
                                Originally posted by FighterCat57
                                Bill, what do you think of the Ceramic Ultra Seal bearings?
                                I'm not gonna' lie to ya' pal, Boca almost dropped me as a driver because I wasn't using enough product wanna' know why?

                                Because none of my bearings will fail, gum up, rust out, get "gritty" or end up with play in them.

                                I ordered a batch and haven't needed to replace any and that was the yellow seal bearings!

                                These orange seal are kicking out the same relentless reliability, only smoother if you can believe it. This is no "fluffing" or product promotion just the facts.

                                Read any testimony on these bearings, I haven't but I'm sure its mostly positive..

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