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  • fweasel
    master of some
    • Jul 2016
    • 4285

    #1756
    I've got a set of 1814-17's to try out as well. I'm good with 70mph, but would be interested to see how the ABC's change the ride vs. the x447's I ran last season.
    Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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    • TRUCKPULL
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 2971

      #1757
      For the ABC 17 degree rake props, you have to set your drives down about 2 degrees.

      That is the rear or prop end down.

      This is done because these props have so much push, if you leave your drives level, they will lift your bow too much, and moving enough weight forward to compensate will upset the balance of the hull.

      Larry
      Past NAMBA- P Mono -1 Mile Race Record holder
      Past NAMBA- P Sport -1 Mile Race Record holder
      Bump & Grind Racing Props -We Like Em Smooth & Wet

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      • Keagan-Z06
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2016
        • 970

        #1758
        Originally posted by TRUCKPULL
        1815 's have more pitch the 447's

        1.8" = 45.72mm x 1.5 = 68.58mm pitch

        47mm X 1.4 = 65.8mm Pitch

        Your 1815's are they the 17 degree rake props??
        1815-17-45/2

        Larry
        They were 1915-17 but Dasboata made them to 1815-17 with less pitch. What were you thinking?
        Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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        • Keagan-Z06
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2016
          • 970

          #1759
          Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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          • stratus
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2016
            • 110

            #1760
            Nice run,waiting vids with your new props!!
            Genesis 36", Zelos Twin 36"

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            • banixj
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 107

              #1761
              Winter session report

              Temperatures went a little up so i went to the lake after 3 months stop!

              LVC:
              last time, after 3'30" running, right ESC red led was blinking...
              so i checked LVS setting: both ESC at 3.2V
              this time, with 2 fresh lipos (same model Nanotech 65C 5A), same run time, at the end left ESC red led was blinking.......
              so my conclusion is: this lipos are good but not enough to fit the high amp drawning using 2 only lipos, so voltage difference between no load and max load is huge and hit the lvc.
              Do you agree?
              Can i set LVC at 3V/cell??


              LiPo and top speed:
              with 2 fresh LiPos the top speed is really increased!!! but i forgot my Garmin at home... next time i will log the top speed!
              Anyway LiPo quality and LiPo age is really really important!
              What's the best way to fit 4 batteries? i think it's impossible to add a strap to block the front lipos under the hull... i'd like to put the 4 LiPos in the same line in the middle but i don't know how...

              Pictures:
              While i was running my Zelos a professional photographer was going around and stop to make some shoots of my Zelos! enjoy...

              ProBoat Zelos36 proshoot_01.jpgProBoat Zelos36 proshoot_02.jpgProBoat Zelos36 proshoot_04.jpg
              ProBoat Zelos36 proshoot_05.jpgProBoat Zelos36 proshoot_07.jpg
              HPR 115 kevlar bulletproof @90mph, MHZ Rapid carbonfiber, Bingo Race Minieco
              Futaba AIR TX/RX system with telemetry

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              • Keagan-Z06
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2016
                • 970

                #1762
                Very nice pictures! Remember if you wanna record your top speed with any setup there is a Zelos fast thread, I can't remember off hand if your on it? I'll be heading out today again. Funny you should mention positioning 4 packs. I just prepared the Zelos to use 4 3S packs vs 2 6s packs. I'll figure it out at the lake, I remember using some foam to kinda Kee the front packs snug and use only 1 strap on the. While the 2 back ones were using 2 straps each.
                Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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                • stratus
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2016
                  • 110

                  #1763
                  Originally posted by banixj
                  Temperatures went a little up so i went to the lake after 3 months stop!

                  LVC:
                  last time, after 3'30" running, right ESC red led was blinking...
                  so i checked LVS setting: both ESC at 3.2V
                  this time, with 2 fresh lipos (same model Nanotech 65C 5A), same run time, at the end left ESC red led was blinking.......
                  so my conclusion is: this lipos are good but not enough to fit the high amp drawning using 2 only lipos, so voltage difference between no load and max load is huge and hit the lvc.
                  Do you agree?
                  Can i set LVC at 3V/cell??


                  LiPo and top speed:
                  with 2 fresh LiPos the top speed is really increased!!! but i forgot my Garmin at home... next time i will log the top speed!
                  Anyway LiPo quality and LiPo age is really really important!
                  What's the best way to fit 4 batteries? i think it's impossible to add a strap to block the front lipos under the hull... i'd like to put the 4 LiPos in the same line in the middle but i don't know how...

                  Pictures:
                  While i was running my Zelos a professional photographer was going around and stop to make some shoots of my Zelos! enjoy...

                  [ATTACH=CONFIG]149803[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]149804[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]149805[/ATTACH]
                  [ATTACH=CONFIG]149806[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]149807[/ATTACH]
                  The photos are all the money!!!
                  Genesis 36", Zelos Twin 36"

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                  • banixj
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 107

                    #1764
                    Originally posted by Keagan-Z06
                    Very nice pictures! Remember if you wanna record your top speed with any setup there is a Zelos fast thread, I can't remember off hand if your on it? I'll be heading out today again. Funny you should mention positioning 4 packs. I just prepared the Zelos to use 4 3S packs vs 2 6s packs. I'll figure it out at the lake, I remember using some foam to kinda Kee the front packs snug and use only 1 strap on the. While the 2 back ones were using 2 straps each.
                    my record on fast thread was 101kmh/63mph, i'm sure i will improve it so soon!

                    please share a pic of your 4 lipo fitting soon!
                    HPR 115 kevlar bulletproof @90mph, MHZ Rapid carbonfiber, Bingo Race Minieco
                    Futaba AIR TX/RX system with telemetry

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                    • Keagan-Z06
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 970

                      #1765
                      Just got back from the lake. New Best @ 86.5!!! Using 1815-17-45

                      IMG_3907.jpg
                      Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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                      • stratus
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2016
                        • 110

                        #1766
                        16 miles up with changing props! wow
                        Genesis 36", Zelos Twin 36"

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                        • Keagan-Z06
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2016
                          • 970

                          #1767
                          Yeah I'm surprised. That puts me .1mph above Erroneous and behind Rafael on the fast list.
                          Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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                          • Mxkid261
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2015
                            • 734

                            #1768
                            Originally posted by Keagan-Z06
                            Just got back from the lake. New Best @ 86.5!!! Using 1815-17-45

                            [ATTACH=CONFIG]149812[/ATTACH]
                            Nice. Should have 90 in it no problem

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                            • Keagan-Z06
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 970

                              #1769
                              That is crazy! I couldn't believe it. Will upload video later of run.
                              Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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                              • fweasel
                                master of some
                                • Jul 2016
                                • 4285

                                #1770
                                Originally posted by banixj
                                last time, after 3'30" running, right ESC red led was blinking...
                                so i checked LVS setting: both ESC at 3.2V
                                this time, with 2 fresh lipos (same model Nanotech 65C 5A), same run time, at the end left ESC red led was blinking.......
                                so my conclusion is: this lipos are good but not enough to fit the high amp drawning using 2 only lipos, so voltage difference between no load and max load is huge and hit the lvc.
                                3.5minutes is about right for run time on 2 3s batteries getting drawn all the way down to LVC. If you're not timing the run itself, you're going to hit LVC on at least one of the ESC's for sure. I don't think anything is wrong with what you're seeing. Did you measure the voltage of the cells after the run to determin how much capacity was left in them?
                                Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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