The official 36" zelos twin modding thread

[prepered]

Have someone experienced the motor on Zelos Twin burned. After a few minutes, one engine stopped working. And there was heavy smoke from it. ESC was not hot and cooling system not blocked. do not really understand why it is burnt, Should the ESC not be hot if water did get through. ??

[kfxguy]

Have someone experienced the motor on Zelos Twin burned. After a few minutes, one engine stopped working. And there was heavy smoke from it. ESC was not hot and cooling system not blocked. do not really understand why it is burnt, Should the ESC not be hot if water did get through. ??

The motors were probably not lined up and were binding the flexes up against the liner.

[CraigP]

That explanation still has a bit of mystery. If the motor is bound up by the flexes, it will pull a lot more current, so the ESC should be hot, unless it has a very high de-rate... It sounds like a winding failure, but that should pull high current too.. Sometimes it’s hard to know exactly, when it comes to electricity. All you can do is replace it, and triple check everything going back together.

[prepered]

The motors were probably not lined up and were binding the flexes up against the liner.

Nop they where lined up perfekt. and make several runs whit it before whit no issue.

[kfxguy]

Nop they where lined up perfekt. and make several runs whit it before whit no issue.

Did you flip the boat any? If so that throws them out of alignment. I speak from experience. Not guessing, mine was smoking when I brought it in and noticed the motors shifted. They can do it even if you didn’t flip. The mount is a poor design in my opinion. Good idea, but it should have a slot to keep it aligned. I’m pretty sure it was just in a bind slightly.

[prepered]

Did you flip the boat any? If so that throws them out of alignment. I speak from experience. Not guessing, mine was smoking when I brought it in and noticed the motors shifted. They can do it even if you didn’t flip. The mount is a poor design in my opinion. Good idea, but it should have a slot to keep it aligned. I’m pretty sure it was just in a bind slightly.

They was no bind and did, t flip it today. I think it was just a fail in motor. shortcut maybe.

[TRUCKPULL]

Motor mount screws too long, and shorted out the winding.

Larry

[CraigP]

Good point Larry... OP needs to check that.

[prepered]

Motor mount screws too long, and shorted out the winding.

Larry

Larry they are stock screws . ??

[CraigP]

I wouldn’t assume that the Chinese guy used the right screws.. Do a depth check yourself, then you know.

[prepered]

I wouldn’t assume that the Chinese guy used the right screws.. Do a depth check yourself, then you know.

I will Thank,s

[prepered]

Will these motor be gode for Zelos. and can the Stock ESC handle the. [ATTACH=CONFIG]157936[/ATTACH
Specs:
RPM/v: 1700kv
Poles: 4
Max voltage: 22.2v (6S)
Max Current: 84A
Max Watts: 1800w
Resistance: 0.0094ohm
No Load Current: 2.9A
Can Diameter: 36mm (actual motor diameter)
Can Diameter inc. Water Jacket: 44mm
Can Length: 60mm
Shaft Size: 5mm
Weight: 270gIMG_8797.jpgIMG_8797.jpg

[fweasel]

You'll need to swing a lager diameter prop if you install a replacement motor with a lower kV motor to maintain a similar speed. That's an over simplification of all the factors involved, but something to consider. If you're looking for new motors with not a lot of other changes to be made, if any, the new Dynamite DYNM3831 are awesome and plug and play. They're more efficient than the originals and the stock ESC's can handle them, on appropriate sized props.

[prepered]

You'll need to swing a lager diameter prop if you install a replacement motor with a lower kV motor to maintain a similar speed. That's an over simplification of all the factors involved, but something to consider. If you're looking for new motors with not a lot of other changes to be made, if any, the new Dynamite DYNM3831 are awesome and plug and play. They're more efficient than the originals and the stock ESC's can handle them, on appropriate sized props.

Thanks for the input. But don't want to buy Dynamite DYNM3831. one of my stock ones just burn out so I think I go whit and other brand.

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[TRUCKPULL]

Thanks for the input. But don't want to buy Dynamite DYNM3831. one of my stock ones just burn out so I think I go whit and other brand.

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The motor in that picture is the old style 3831's

The newer style motor are much better.
https://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pr...od=hh-dynm3831

Larry