Is tp 4060 2040kv ok on 6s?

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  • rude5150
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 339

    #1

    Is tp 4060 2040kv ok on 6s?

    My esc ran a bit hot after 2:31 sec of throttle . Must i Up my power to run cooler?
  • rude5150
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 339

    #2
    My esc is a swordfish 220

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    • kevinpratt823
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Aug 2012
      • 1361

      #3
      We just discussed at length high rpm setups here.....http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...-s-the-problem

      It can be "OK", but there is very little room for error in setup, especially when it comes to the prop. You really need to tell us more about it, boat, prop, etc.
      It may be OK in a smaller Cat with a 440 prop, definitely not a big mono witha X450.
      My private off road rc track
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC3H...yaNZNA&index=8

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      • rude5150
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2014
        • 339

        #4
        Wow. Its in my blackjack 29, im using m445 prop.

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        • kfxguy
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Oct 2013
          • 8746

          #5
          I want to say something, but I'm not.
          32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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          • gsbuickman
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Jul 2011
            • 1292

            #6
            I think you need to step it down to 5s power before you kill it. I am running the 3674 2350kv mill, in a 29" mean machine cat with 200A ESC & 5s power spinning a back cut m445 prop. This thing is a handful to drive and a rocketship wide open, no way would I push it to 6s with the m445. Maybe with the 440, but doubtful.

            That's like passing ludicrous speed and going to plaid, however in a 29" hull Its way overkill.....

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            • rude5150
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 339

              #7
              My esc ran hot and stop working, guess i got to get another.

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              • tlandauer
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2011
                • 5666

                #8
                Originally posted by rude5150
                My esc ran a bit hot after 2:31 sec of throttle . Must i Up my power to run cooler?
                ?? You mean to add more cells?
                Or you mean to drive with full throttle all the time, then yes!
                Were you driving with part throttle and /or stop and go like I have seen in one of your videos?
                That kind of driving is hard on the ESC, not saying that you were driving like that, but just so you know...
                In addition to that, that combo would have been happier with running less than 6s count, people with lots experience on how to set up correctly do get away with that, but it takes time to get a handle on that and it is also important to start with a smaller prop. If sport boating is what you are doing now, then you should consider not running 6s with that set up.
                There is a reason why there are general guidelines for setting up a boat, your unloaded RPM is in SAW territory, but because of a recent thread about high RPM, I am not going to stir the pot, let me put it this way: I had a 2200kv in my MG, running on 4s, I am happy and the boat is happy, nothing has gone wrong.
                Now hear this, when I first got that boat, the seller told me to run 6s, he put a Seaking 120 a ESC, and recommended a x642 prop, guess how far and long did I run the boat? 50 yds., and 5 sec. is all it took to get me sitting here and register in this Forum and started to LEARN! I am just relating my personal experience, this is not bashing you or anybody, but as one distinguish member (drwayne) said, you burn and learn---IMO this is wise saying in the FE world!
                Last edited by tlandauer; 06-08-2014, 02:47 AM.
                Too many boats, not enough time...

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                • rude5150
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 339

                  #9
                  Thanks for breaking my situation down to me. Im very GREATFUL for the guys on offshore. The knowledge learned here is PRICELESS. I wish knew this before. I thought that 2040kv times the 22.2v= 45,288 rpms.I figured the motor is rated at 50,000rpms. Thats how u got here and its a blessing to hear y'all remarks. This is the best hobby ever. What I wanted to do was past 72 mph so I could post a video. I hardly gave the boat throttle and it was gone. I wish that didnt happen. I finally got my catamaran to run perfect.

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                  • rude5150
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 339

                    #10
                    Another thing I did was use a tee or y fitting to turn the 1 cooling line into 2 for esc and motor. I ordered in hull water pickup, but im waiting for the parts to come in. When it as happened, I thought it was hot because I had components sharing the cooling line.

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                    • Fella1340
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • May 2013
                      • 1035

                      #11
                      It's not a good idea to ever run a "T" in a cooling setup. One side will likely get the bulk of the cooling and the other starved. Running a single line setup through the esc and then the motor is the way to go until you have a second water pickup. I think you know this but it's worth mentioning.

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                      • rude5150
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 339

                        #12
                        True, I just did that cause I didnt want to wait for extra pickups to come in and I went to test. I plan to add it soon as it arrive. I run my TP4050 2220KV 220ESC ON 6S. Is there a problem in that setup too?

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                        • rude5150
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 339

                          #13
                          I won't do that again!

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                          • keithbradley
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 3663

                            #14
                            These setups are WAY too much load.
                            There's a lot of confusion on this forum lately... where did you get the idea to run that rpm/prop combo? If someone here told you that's a good idea you should send them the bill.
                            www.keithbradleyboats.com

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                            • rude5150
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 339

                              #15
                              I thought that TP 4050 2220kv was a 6s motor? Can you better explain to me where im going wrong. Max amps is 227. max rpms is 52,000. Max volts is 23v. Just when I think im close, im so far away.

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