Has a worthy ESC been born? The Castle XLX2 looks to be an excellent ESC.

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  • RaceMechaniX
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Sep 2007
    • 2821

    #151
    I kind of doubt it. Perhaps Gabe at Stump Fab or NexGen Performance would be willing to convert ESC's. I will plant the idea with them.
    Tyler Garrard
    NAMBA 639/IMPBA 20525
    T-Hydro @ 142.94mph former WR

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    • Brushless55
      Creator
      • Oct 2008
      • 9488

      #152
      Looks good Tyler
      .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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      • eric113
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 323

        #153
        Tyler,have you looked into mamba X to water cool for spec and limited classes? I know there some guys running them in P limited hydros.

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        • NativePaul
          Greased Weasel
          • Feb 2008
          • 2761

          #154
          That would be good, they are ?290 in the UK which is about $400USD, we could probably pay someone to do the conversion for us and still save money.
          Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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          • RaceMechaniX
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Sep 2007
            • 2821

            #155
            Originally posted by eric113
            Tyler,have you looked into mamba X to water cool for spec and limited classes? I know there some guys running them in P limited hydros.
            No, I have not looked at the smallest option.
            Tyler Garrard
            NAMBA 639/IMPBA 20525
            T-Hydro @ 142.94mph former WR

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            • RaceMechaniX
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Sep 2007
              • 2821

              #156
              Originally posted by NativePaul
              That would be good, they are ?290 in the UK which is about $400USD, we could probably pay someone to do the conversion for us and still save money.
              I did text with Gabe and he is considering doing the conversion with the plate coolers for both the XLX2 and X8S ESC's. He was waiting on back ordered ESC's to arrive. I bet you could order the ESC's from Gabe converted cheaper than you could buy the ESC alone in the UK.
              Tyler Garrard
              NAMBA 639/IMPBA 20525
              T-Hydro @ 142.94mph former WR

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              • donhuff
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2014
                • 561

                #157
                Originally posted by eric113
                Tyler,have you looked into mamba X to water cool for spec and limited classes? I know there some guys running them in P limited hydros.
                eric113, Since no one else replied to you, I can make you some cooling caps for the little Monster X. I just sent a couple to Texas for Oscar L. That Monster X is good for about 200 amps tops.

                Cooling caps are $30, or send me your esc and I will install the cap for $50.

                Don "AmpDaddy" Huff
                AmpDaddy
                don huff

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                • eric113
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 323

                  #158
                  Originally posted by donhuff
                  eric113, Since no one else replied to you, I can make you some cooling caps for the little Monster X. I just sent a couple to Texas for Oscar L. That Monster X is good for about 200 amps tops.

                  Cooling caps are $30, or send me your esc and I will install the cap for $50.

                  Don "AmpDaddy" Huff
                  Don, you talking about the castle monster? I’m talking about the castle Mamba X. Just wanting to make sure we’re talking about the same esc. The mamba X is go up to 6s. I’m going to be running it in a P limited hydro.

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                  • donhuff
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 561

                    #159
                    Yes Eric, I was talking about the monster. Didn't notice that you said mamba, sorry.

                    We are using the monster X in out ltd riggers and are seeing 150-180 saw and over 200 amps in the turns. Unless you already have the mamba, I'd buy the monster, just for the extra head room on the amps. And if you can get by, amp wise, with the mamba, I'll bet that you could use the monster without water cooling and just the fan and it would be ok. One guy in our club is using a xlx2 in a Q sport hydro with just the fan, and it works fine.

                    Looking at the pictures of the mamba, it looks like it could be modded also, but I would have to have one in my hands to know for sure.
                    AmpDaddy
                    don huff

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                    • Ken Haines
                      Racer
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 647

                      #160
                      Has anyone tried the XLX2 on 9 or even 10s Lipo.
                      Yes, I realize the instructions say this will damage the ESC....
                      Just wondering ?
                      TenShock Brushless / Pro Marine
                      INSANE Boats / Rico Racing/ Castle Creations
                      2023, 2024 NAMBA & 2018 IMPBA FE High Points "National Champion"

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                      • jkflow
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2021
                        • 329

                        #161
                        It is rated at 33.6V max. Not sure if anyone is silly enough to blow it up on purpose, it will be dead once you try, just a question on how much smoke will come out.
                        A typical voltage limit for capacitors is 35V, that might be one reason.

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                        • Brushless55
                          Creator
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 9488

                          #162
                          Originally posted by Ken Haines
                          Has anyone tried the XLX2 on 9 or even 10s Lipo.
                          Yes, I realize the instructions say this will damage the ESC....
                          Just wondering ?
                          You don't want to exceed the cap rating.
                          .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                          • Jesse J
                            scale FE racer
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 7116

                            #163
                            Originally posted by Brushless55
                            You don't want to exceed the cap rating.
                            Unless you want to find the limits for yourself.
                            "Look good doin' it"
                            See the fleet

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                            • Brushless55
                              Creator
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 9488

                              #164
                              Originally posted by Jesse J
                              Unless you want to find the limits for yourself.
                              Might only last a second
                              .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                              • Ken Haines
                                Racer
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 647

                                #165
                                Originally posted by Brushless55
                                You don't want to exceed the cap rating.
                                Funny answers to a valid question..... since if you have one of these you would realize that the
                                capacitors are not externally visible. Thus there is no way for a user to actually read the capacitor voltage rating.

                                I asked the question thinking about other Esc's ratings. Consider the Schulze 32.170. This fairly rare
                                no longer manufactured German unit is actually capable of being used on 10s set-ups despite the 32v
                                label rating. Thought possibly someone here maybe Tyler or one of the other speed trials guys might
                                have tried pushing them past the rated limits. Since asking the question here I have talked to Joe Ford at Castle.
                                He told me they know from design testing that you cannot exceed the 8s limit. He also said they have
                                considered future options on Marine and High Voltage units, but nothing definite at this time. During the call he
                                asked me several other application and technical questions. I did mentioned this thread to him and the positive
                                feedback posted so far on these newer Mamba converted units. It was great to hear that although not currently
                                producing Esc's specifically for boat applications, they have not forgotten about us, especially understanding
                                that we are a fairly small segment of the RC market.
                                TenShock Brushless / Pro Marine
                                INSANE Boats / Rico Racing/ Castle Creations
                                2023, 2024 NAMBA & 2018 IMPBA FE High Points "National Champion"

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