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  • Fluid
    Fast and Furious
    • Apr 2007
    • 8011

    #16
    I haven't, but it would be identical to what is done to the 200LV Lite. What many folks seem to forget is that high voltage setups don't run at higher amps. In fact a 10S setup will run with great performance with lower amps than a 4S setup. With better water cooling there is no reason that the 160HV would not make a great 10S controller.

    Improved cooling can extend the safe amp draw for a controller. An example was the old Hydra ICE 240 LV marine controller. It was identical to the aircraft ICE 200 LV (except for the firmware) yet was rated 40 amps higher. This was because the water cooling kept it...cooler. It is not high amps which cooks a controller, it is the heat.

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    • meangenesracing
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Jun 2012
      • 1160

      #17
      Originally posted by Fluid
      I haven't, but it would be identical to what is done to the 200LV Lite. What many folks seem to forget is that high voltage setups don't run at higher amps. In fact a 10S setup will run with great performance with lower amps than a 4S setup. With better water cooling there is no reason that the 160HV would not make a great 10S controller.

      Improved cooling can extend the safe amp draw for a controller. An example was the old Hydra ICE 240 LV marine controller. It was identical to the aircraft ICE 200 LV (except for the firmware) yet was rated 40 amps higher. This was because the water cooling kept it...cooler. It is not high amps which cooks a controller, it is the heat.

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      sounds like a plan, I think I will get one for my 1/8 scale and convert it thanks very much Jay T

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      • kfxguy
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Oct 2013
        • 8746

        #18
        Originally posted by rayzerdesigns
        Looking at the 280 lite with waterproofing for my q.. and probably the 400 for my t
        I have a couple of 250 lites and I was thinking about letting one go. One is brand new. Collecting dust.
        32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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        • rayzerdesigns
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Dec 2013
          • 1228

          #19
          Are they the fully waterproofed ones??

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          • MarkF
            dinogylipos.com
            • Mar 2008
            • 979

            #20
            I am going to try a 160 Brian water proofed for me in my 10s mono. I will let you know how it works out.
            Ray. I just got my TP motor and it looks good. I hope to have the boat done in a few weeks. Look forward to racing you guys again in the gas classes.

            Mark

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            • meangenesracing
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Jun 2012
              • 1160

              #21
              Originally posted by MarkF
              I am going to try a 160 Brian water proofed for me in my 10s mono. I will let you know how it works out.
              Ray. I just got my TP motor and it looks good. I hope to have the boat done in a few weeks. Look forward to racing you guys again in the gas classes.

              Mark
              can you please post some detailed pictures of your conversion? I have seen the ones Jay T done but would like to see different ideas out there thanks, geno

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              • MarkF
                dinogylipos.com
                • Mar 2008
                • 979

                #22
                I am using an old Peter Zicha mount for the motor mount but had to drill new holes because these motors come with a 6 bolt star pattern. I'm sure you can use any motor mount designed for 5" rails but might need to drill some new holes unless you can get them to make the right bolt pattern. I will show pics once the motor is installed.
                I'm using the 5860 5y 650kv motor in hopes to be able to swing gas props at a little higher rpm than they do.

                Mark

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                • rayzerdesigns
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 1228

                  #23
                  Originally posted by MarkF
                  I am going to try a 160 Brian water proofed for me in my 10s mono. I will let you know how it works out.
                  Ray. I just got my TP motor and it looks good. I hope to have the boat done in a few weeks. Look forward to racing you guys again in the gas classes.

                  Mark
                  Which motor did u get?? I got the 5860.. it's a amp hog.. did 2 laps and it popped a 300 sf speedo.. that was on a small prop.. not sure the cox will hold up.. thinking mgm 400

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                  • MarkF
                    dinogylipos.com
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 979

                    #24
                    I have a 300 SF that's been through many motors and still keeps running. I got the motor listed above.

                    Mark

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                    • raptor347
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 1089

                      #25
                      I have an XL X on the way. I'll be interested to see what it's capabilities are and what it will take to cool it.
                      Brian "Snowman" Buaas
                      Team Castle Creations
                      NAMBA FE Chairman

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                      • rayzerdesigns
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 1228

                        #26
                        Originally posted by raptor347
                        I have an XL X on the way. I'll be interested to see what it's capabilities are and what it will take to cool it.
                        It's the same board as the 160.. but it has the bec.. the xlx is the one I blew up at nats in my q mono brian

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                        • MarkF
                          dinogylipos.com
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 979

                          #27
                          Ray it sounds like your 300 was ready to go. These are 6 pole motors and they are going to be harder on esc than a 4 pole. That's one reason I went with 650 kv to get rpm down and prop size up.
                          How do you water cool your castles? Have you seen how Brian does it?

                          Mark

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                          • rayzerdesigns
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 1228

                            #28
                            I have seen how brian does it.. we just drilled out case and added 2 cooling lines per side

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                            • urbs00007
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 826

                              #29
                              mamba xlx

                              Originally posted by MarkF
                              I am going to try a 160 Brian water proofed for me in my 10s mono. I will let you know how it works out.
                              Ray. I just got my TP motor and it looks good. I hope to have the boat done in a few weeks. Look forward to racing you guys again in the gas classes.

                              Mark
                              if razordesigns popped a swordfish 300 on a small prop, do you think a 160 will handle it? how many amps are you anticipating?

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                              • raptor347
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 1089

                                #30
                                Some esc's are underrated, some are overrated.
                                Brian "Snowman" Buaas
                                Team Castle Creations
                                NAMBA FE Chairman

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