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  • detox
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jun 2008
    • 2318

    #16
    Shooter, Look at this Whip sponson mod, it was designed to "reduce lift" for high speed SAW passes.

    Is turnfin an option? These are getting hard to find.
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    • Shooter
      Team Mojo
      • Jun 2009
      • 2558

      #17
      Interesting. I remember Mike talking about the possibility of that recovery pad hitting the rougher water on plane. That chamfer would solve the issue.

      I would guess that chamfer would increase the pressure under the boat (more cross sectional area on the inlet side), and thus increase lift. Strange.

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      • detox
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jun 2008
        • 2318

        #18
        IMO the curve of front sponson creates lift also. Maybe more than air going under the hull. If the front cross cross piece is shaped correctly (more down force) this should reduce lift and air going under hull.

        Picture was posted by raptor347 Maybe you could contact him and ask?

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        • detox
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Jun 2008
          • 2318

          #19
          You can also increase sponson ride pad angle 1 degree more so that hull can plane or fly less wet. After increasing pad angle, strut will need to be ran deeper to level boat while running fast in water. Tail dragging or nose up attitude will cause blow overs...especially a lighter weight hull.

          Adding Steeper ride pad on sponsons, level ride attitude, good COG and lower ride height (not too low) will help boat run fast and prevent too much air going under hull and causing blow overs.

          Hydro Missile
          Last edited by detox; 11-08-2014, 12:13 AM.

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          • Shooter
            Team Mojo
            • Jun 2009
            • 2558

            #20
            Originally posted by detox
            IMO the curve of front sponson creates lift also.
            Good point.

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            • Shooter
              Team Mojo
              • Jun 2009
              • 2558

              #21
              Originally posted by detox
              You can also increase sponson ride pad angle 1 degree more so that hull can plane or fly less wet. After increasing pad angle, strut will need to be ran deeper to level boat while running fast in water. Tail dragging or nose up attitude will cause blow overs...especially a lighter weight hull.

              Adding Steeper ride pad on sponsons, level ride attitude, good COG and lower ride height (not too low) will help boat run fast and prevent too much air going under hull and causing blow overs.

              Hydro Missile
              Good stuff. I learned a lot last year about AOA and how the strut height can impact it. Good idea making the 1 degree ride pad change and then lowering the strut, getting the best of both worlds.

              I don't mind a lot of air running under the boat as long as it's bleeding out. It's when it gets excessively trapped that causes problems (builds too much pressure underneath and results in excessive force upwards). The faster we go, the more it becomes a problem. Our scale speeds are ridiculous. All these flat bottom boats (no tunnel) are great at bleeding air. I think these angled vents on the V5 design (larger outlet than inlet) are going to work well, but only time will tell.

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              • ray schrauwen
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 9471

                #22
                I've also added 1/8" ply to the tops and insides of the sponsons, blended into the front of the sponsons with sanding block.




                Originally posted by detox
                Shooter, Look at this Whip sponson mod, it was designed to "reduce lift" for high speed SAW passes.

                Is turnfin an option? These are getting hard to find.
                Nortavlag Bulc

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                • darryl whitman
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 535

                  #23
                  Shooter R u selling the frame kits yet? If so mp me , plz I like that boat

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                  • Todd Fleury
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 439

                    #24
                    Chip, switching my p limited over to a P for next year

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                    • LuckyDuc
                      Team Ducati Racing
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 989

                      #25
                      Nice looking boat, Pete! There should be a good crop of P Sport hydros racing next season. I've been anxiously awaiting the revitalization of this class.

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                      • T.S.Davis
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6221

                        #26
                        Pete, .5y. Never got to run it. Was camping this past weekend with the Scouts. brrr.....rrrrrrr......rrrrrrrr.......rrrrrrrrr.

                        A new P Sport was not on my agenda but...................they look like so much fun. This would take me to five builds again this winter. Pushing my luck.

                        Sean, will you be making the trip to MI all by yer onesy this summer? Didn't sound like Doug was going to come out.
                        Noisy person

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                        • LuckyDuc
                          Team Ducati Racing
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 989

                          #27
                          I'm sure that we'll be hitting some of our normal haunts next season. A lot of our travel plans depend on the race dates set for our local clubs. Those dates get finalized in January.

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                          • Shooter
                            Team Mojo
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 2558

                            #28
                            Originally posted by LuckyDuc
                            I'm sure that we'll be hitting some of our normal haunts next season. A lot of our travel plans depend on the race dates set for our local clubs. Those dates get finalized in January.
                            hint hint. Need to schedule around those dates!!!

                            I'm still waiting on wood (be nice, Tom!). I haven't even gotten an update from them. Aggravating. On the other hand, I was able to fix some minor details in the model. This thing is really starting to come together nicely. Need to start working on a cowl design. I was thinking about making the buck on the CNC mill, but maybe a 'stack' of laser cut pcs and some sanding would do the trick.

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                            • flraptor07
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 2451

                              #29
                              I'm really liking this boat, the more I look at it the more I like it. Hurry up with that cowl design, I'm thinkin' I want one of the kits when you get them going.

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                              • Shooter
                                Team Mojo
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 2558

                                #30
                                Thanks. Here is a picture of the 'drop nose' sponson I was referring to earlier. It doesn't look like much now, but when it's together, I'm hoping it takes the looks of the ski boat I modeled it after..... check out the nose design. Absolutely beautiful.
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