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  • Brushless55
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    • Oct 2008
    • 9488

    #76
    Looks much much better
    I would say turn down your steering rate on your rudder and it should tame down your flipping issues
    .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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    • flraptor07
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Aug 2013
      • 2451

      #77
      Originally posted by Brushless55
      Looks much much better
      I would say turn down your steering rate on your rudder and it should tame down your flipping issues
      Brushless is right! a longer rudder is not the answer, in fact it will probably make it worse because it will turn that much quicker..

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      • Rumdog
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Mar 2009
        • 6453

        #78
        Ummmm... It's a combination if both. He most definitely DOES need a longer rudder.

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        • flraptor07
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Aug 2013
          • 2451

          #79
          Originally posted by Rumdog
          Ummmm... It's a combination if both. He most definitely DOES need a longer rudder.
          I'm not trying to be a smartass, He said he's got a 4 1/4" rudder on it now, how much longer does it need to be?
          Last edited by flraptor07; 05-27-2014, 09:40 AM.

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          • Rumdog
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Mar 2009
            • 6453

            #80
            working over my mean machine ....

            http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=ros-spdr-001

            Full length. This is the rudder you want

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            • flraptor07
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Aug 2013
              • 2451

              #81
              Originally posted by Rumdog
              http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=ros-spdr-001

              Full length. This is the rudder you want
              OK but why? I've used this rudder on quite a few boats and I usually cut it to length. I know this is totally different but when I use this rudder on a P Hydro I cut it up to about 1/4" below the water pick up hole and it works beautiful. On my Cheetah I used this rudder with the dual pick up blade. http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...prod=ose-80057 Here's how it corners https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWlC...ature=youtu.be

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              • Rumdog
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Mar 2009
                • 6453

                #82
                Simply because the mean machine needs it. Its pretty well known that it needs a long rudder to corner well. I know from experience, and from the others on this forum.

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                • gsbuickman
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1292

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Brushless55
                  Looks much much better
                  I would say turn down your steering rate on your rudder and it should tame down your flipping issues
                  I generally agree with this and I can turn down my servo speeds on my m11 radio, however due to range issues I went back to my tactic ttx-240 so there goes that idea ....

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                  • gsbuickman
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 1292

                    #84
                    new rudder & h20 pick up project ...

                    I just got the new setup on my meanie' tied up last night with a long rudder so she'll quit spinning out & handle better.

                    After some cutting and grinding with my dremel & my angle grinder, the marine specialties blade I had from an old gas hydro setup now hangs 2 15/16" below the sponsons. Now she should stay stuck to the water .....

                    Even though it took a couple hours of cutting and grinding & I had to drill the rudder mount and hang a cf tube h20 pick up on it I think it turned out pretty damn nice.

                    BTW, the boat is sitting on the stand & the rudder is even with the floor.....
                    Attached Files

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                    • Brushless55
                      Creator
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 9488

                      #85
                      Originally posted by gsbuickman
                      I generally agree with this and I can turn down my servo speeds on my m11 radio, however due to range issues I went back to my tactic ttx-240 so there goes that idea ....
                      generally its the ST.RATE knob on the tactic radio.. not servo speed
                      EPA
                      .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                      • f1rogers
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 103

                        #86
                        On my MM, from the bottom of the right sponson to the bottom of my rudder is 2 7/8". Seems long but it works great. Speedmaster 21 rudder. You can also adjust the servo throw, so it wont turn so sharp.

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                        • gsbuickman
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 1292

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Brushless55
                          generally its the ST.RATE knob on the tactic radio.. not servo speed
                          EPA
                          I will test it tonight, but that use to limit the amount of travel the servo throws, but not the speed......

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                          • Brushless55
                            Creator
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 9488

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Brushless55
                            Looks much much better
                            I would say turn down your steering rate on your rudder and it should tame down your flipping issues
                            Originally posted by gsbuickman
                            I generally agree with this and I can turn down my servo speeds on my m11 radio, however due to range issues I went back to my tactic ttx-240 so there goes that idea ....
                            Originally posted by Brushless55
                            generally its the ST.RATE knob on the tactic radio.. not servo speed
                            EPA
                            Originally posted by gsbuickman
                            I will test it tonight, but that use to limit the amount of travel the servo throws, but not the speed......
                            Exactly! and that's what I keep saying..................
                            turn down the rate / throw of the rudder servo
                            .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                            • gsbuickman
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 1292

                              #89
                              5s test run video #2

                              Here's my 5s test run video #2 for all you good lil' boys & girls

                              I was taking it a lil' easy trying to get a feel for how the new rudder handled, as well as how well it turned at speed with where i had the steering speed set. I initally stopped it for a steerinf adjustment because it was slightly pulling to the left, after that it run straight and true. the steering speed was a bit slow and wasn't turning tight enough, although it was stuck to the water like it was on rails ie: not 1 spinout .

                              i squeezed just past 3/4 throttle and she jumped outta the water, the prop unloaded and free spun & that was all she wrote after that . I tossed out the tennis ball and pulled it in first throw and got a look inside. everything looks good but it had about 2 cups of water in it & everything was wet, esc included even though i plasti-dipped it. it worked after i got it home, but it acted like it had water inside it so i'll look at it tomorrow.

                              its still the same setup with the strut an 1/8" above the sponson's. not bad for run #2. i guess i'll start taping it cause the neoprene seal isnt cutting it, not to mention the rear hull is 5/8" thick so i cant get a seal where the rudder linkage rod passes thru the hull...

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcU0...ature=youtu.be

                              heres a few pics of the residents and escapees from sirslashes neck of the woods....
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                              Last edited by gsbuickman; 06-05-2014, 02:08 AM.

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                              • gsbuickman
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 1292

                                #90
                                5s test run video #2, pics

                                more pics
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