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  • Howard Lee
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 198

    #1

    32" River Cat

    I'm starting a new build and this 1 will have some new things. To start i ordered a Neu 1527 1.5D and it will run on 11s. I'm working on a new hatch lock but 1st i will reinforce the hull so it can take some high speed flips or not. lol
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  • keithbradley
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jul 2010
    • 3663

    #2
    Very sweet looking boat! I should know, it looks just like mine.

    The 1527 should be plenty of power. Im interested to see what you do with this. How are you going to get 11s in it? Are you going to use smaller capacity lipos? I run mine on 8s and had to knotch the hull to get the batteries in...
    www.keithbradleyboats.com

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    • Howard Lee
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 198

      #3
      I'm going to keep my 5s to the left and 4s to the right and a 2s that i will move to get my weights right. I might just run it on 5s and 5s, not sure. I'll know more as i start building it.

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      • 6sHyper
        <<<Surfs up!
        • Jan 2011
        • 597

        #4
        you are totally nuts!!........this will be on my watch list...........

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        • keithbradley
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Jul 2010
          • 3663

          #5
          Originally posted by Howard Lee
          I'm going to keep my 5s to the left and 4s to the right and a 2s that i will move to get my weights right. I might just run it on 5s and 5s, not sure. I'll know more as i start building it.
          Oh, ok. That makes sense.
          I ran series of 3 and even 4 lipos in one of my larger monos (6x3s to make 9s2p, and 2x3s+2x2s to make 10s2p). I found out that when running more than two batteries in series, shortening the wires as much as possible helps A LOT. I shortened mine up as much as possible and got an extra 2mph just from that, so you may want to keep that in mind when you lay things out.
          www.keithbradleyboats.com

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          • Brushless55
            Creator
            • Oct 2008
            • 9488

            #6
            .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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            • Jacked1
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 772

              #7
              Originally posted by Brushless55
              Fleet: 55" Quad inline T600 Cigarette boat, Twin Mean Machine, Twin T600 47" mystery mono, 4082 Surge Crusher, 1717 8s Genesis, 4074 Villain, "mini mono", 52" Bonzi, Prather Funcruiser, 2 DPI 3.5cc tunnels, 5' Styrofoam recover barge

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              • 10gauge
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 281

                #8
                I am going to save you $260! I am not opposed to crazy setups, but running 11S goes against the laws of electromechanics on that motor. On a 1527/1.5D the most you need to run is 5S-6S.

                1527/1.5D: [1500kv] x [11S] x [3.7V/S] = 61,050 rpm. The motor is rated for 60,000 rpm, probably with no load. I'd keep the rpm within the 30,000 - 35,000 range for a hot setup. Besides, 1527 is wasted power, weight, and money on a 32in cat. The most I'd use is 1521.
                Mean Machine Cat: 9XL, 4S2P, CC120, M545 (50mph) -- DF22 Hydro: 8L, 3S1P/4500, CC120, x637 (49mph) -- M-1 SuperCat: 1521/1Y, 6S2P, CC240, x447 (61mph) -- SV27 Mono: stock setup, 14-cell/4200, x642 (42mph) -- Micro Scat Cat: 28-3600, 3S1P/2100, Turnigy 60, x430 (41mph)

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                • keithbradley
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 3663

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 10gauge
                  I am going to save you $260! I am not opposed to crazy setups, but running 11S goes against the laws of electromechanics on that motor. On a 1527/1.5D the most you need to run is 5S-6S.

                  1527/1.5D: [1500kv] x [11S] x [3.7V/S] = 61,050 rpm. The motor is rated for 60,000 rpm, probably with no load. I'd keep the rpm within the 30,000 - 35,000 range for a hot setup. Besides, 1527 is wasted power, weight, and money on a 32in cat. The most I'd use is 1521.
                  I would have the same thoughts, but in this case, he is trying to build a 100+ mph cat. His last setup was a bit of a time bomb but he's made a number of passes with it, and it's fast. Howard has been advised against extreme RPM but I think he is just seeing how far he can go before it simply doesnt work.

                  This boat wil probably go fast if it doesnt go through ESCs every run.
                  www.keithbradleyboats.com

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                  • TotalPackage
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 601

                    #10
                    Originally posted by keithbradley
                    I would have the same thoughts, but in this case, he is trying to build a 100+ mph cat. His last setup was a bit of a time bomb but he's made a number of passes with it, and it's fast. Howard has been advised against extreme RPM but I think he is just seeing how far he can go before it simply doesnt work.

                    This boat wil probably go fast if it doesnt go through ESCs every run.
                    almost all the neus can handle 50 volts or better no matter the size the have some that handel over 70 volts and upwards the problem is what you gonna conrol it with and what prop u going to spin? x427 I think Howard can run whatever his heart desires? whats it to any of us? At this point id just watch and learn as he has one of the fastest hotr cats weve seen. He deserves some guru status for that alone . So lets just watch and learn something. Im down with whatever he does on this boat. I he can get a 572cu in chevy in there I just want to see it run period. Watching Howard and Keith with these fighter cats is going to be big fun

                    Those American Motors are the shiznit
                    Last edited by TotalPackage; 04-10-2011, 02:06 PM.

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                    • TotalPackage
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 601

                      #11
                      Im just surprized the 4082's arent going like hot cakes at this point but howard let me say this if youre pushing equipment farther thatn its recomended and getting close to records u need to get a sponsorship i mean you sellin motors for leopard indirectly just food for thought

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                      • m4a1usr
                        Fast Electric Addict
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 2038

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 10gauge
                        I am going to save you $260! I am not opposed to crazy setups, but running 11S goes against the laws of electromechanics on that motor. On a 1527/1.5D the most you need to run is 5S-6S.

                        1527/1.5D: [1500kv] x [11S] x [3.7V/S] = 61,050 rpm. The motor is rated for 60,000 rpm, probably with no load. I'd keep the rpm within the 30,000 - 35,000 range for a hot setup. Besides, 1527 is wasted power, weight, and money on a 32in cat. The most I'd use is 1521.
                        Hopefully he is going to use the 8mm rotor version. The 5mm shaft rotor will likely disintegrate at high RPM's. Been the story for those who have already tried.

                        John
                        Change is the one Constant

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                        • Howard Lee
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 198

                          #13
                          Originally posted by m4a1usr
                          Hopefully he is going to use the 8mm rotor version. The 5mm shaft rotor will likely disintegrate at high RPM's. Been the story for those who have already tried.

                          John
                          5mm shaft will not disintegrate at high rpm's. The problem is when you are pushing a heavy boat with big hp with a 5mm shaft. I think this is funny about high rpm,s. I have a leo 1500kv that i turn 50,000 out of it and have many test runs but never have a problem with it, but a neu will come apart at 60,000. I'm missing something here, maybe i need to go back to my leo. This is a test of rpm,s and to see just how fast a 32 river cat can go. I have already hit a 100mph on gps with a leo at 50,000 but what will i hit with 60,000 rpm's??? lol

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                          • Howard Lee
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 198

                            #14
                            I started reinforcing the 32. To start with the strut attachment area needs to be sanded and then check if is level. Then add some cloth for strengthening the seam. For this motor i am going to double the cloth to strengthen the floor and then use PT40 to seal the hull.
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                            • Howard Lee
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 198

                              #15
                              2 more pics.
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