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  • Darin Jordan
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 8335

    #61
    Originally posted by ray schrauwen
    Light compared to what?
    "Light" isn't a relative term...

    To be an "excellent" N1 boat, they need to come in at under 2lbs, fully RTR... which means the hull needs to be around 8oz or so...
    Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
    "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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    • questtek
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 556

      #62
      Originally posted by Darin Jordan
      "Light" isn't a relative term...

      To be an "excellent" N1 boat, they need to come in at under 2lbs, fully RTR... which means the hull needs to be around 8oz or so...
      Just weighted the DF Sniper I am using with Seaking 90 water cooled ESC and the larger inrunner motor I referenced. Weight is 1 lb 14.5 oz without the LiPo pac. BUT, that weight also includes the GoPro HD camera mount screwed into the back of the top cowl. Add the lipo pac and you have the total system weight. I do not have a raw hull to weigh. So, less than two lbs RTR, NOT the set up I am running.

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      • ray schrauwen
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 9471

        #63
        It just seems off to me???

        You might get more speed & less amps from a smaller, metal prop.
        Nortavlag Bulc

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        • questtek
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 556

          #64
          Ray, Have you upgraded to the HobbyKing motor you recommended? I removed it and back to the inrunner with again good performance. I found that the HK motors that were recommended in this forum were a bit too small after testing them. And you?
          Last edited by questtek; 11-26-2010, 10:31 AM.

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          • BILL OXIDEAN
            Banned
            • Sep 2008
            • 1494

            #65
            That boat would be PERFECTLY matched with a car system
            Namingly Novak.

            I'm gonna; get one, slap it in, and show the word what's up..

            Little skinny 380 motors and airplane super low kv outrunners are a waste of time.

            540 diameter is right for this boat.

            A novak 4.5 ballistic system on a 430 prop would rip like a chainsaw on 2s lipo.
            9,000 kv with a dynamic timing advance, unstoppable in the thing..

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            • ray schrauwen
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2007
              • 9471

              #66
              Frankly I'm still waiting for a HK motor for it.

              I really think a smaller prop on 2S and the 4400kv outrunner would go nicely but, I'm speculating> I would run 2S2p for that also (3200Mah total).

              Sorry, just been really cold out and my buddies haven't given me enough notice to go out & try it out. I don't go out alone in my wheelchair, to hard for me to launch and retrieve boats.
              Nortavlag Bulc

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              • ray schrauwen
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 9471

                #67
                Originally posted by BILL OXIDEAN
                That boat would be PERFECTLY matched with a car system
                Namingly Novak.

                I'm gonna; get one, slap it in, and show the word what's up..

                Little skinny 380 motors and airplane super low kv outrunners are a waste of time.

                540 diameter is right for this boat.

                A novak 4.5 ballistic system on a 430 prop would rip like a chainsaw on 2s lipo.
                9,000 kv with a dynamic timing advance, unstoppable in the thing..
                I might just take that advice as I have been pondering such ideas...

                Just not Novak for me, don't like the price. I can get a high kv 540motor anywhere.

                First I'll try it stock, whenever that is .....
                Nortavlag Bulc

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                • BILL OXIDEAN
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1494

                  #68
                  Originally posted by ray schrauwen
                  Frankly I'm still waiting for a HK motor for it.

                  I really think a smaller prop on 2S and the 4400kv outrunner would go nicely but, I'm speculating> I would run 2S2p for that also (3200Mah total).
                  s.
                  Why not just run 4000+ mah 1p?
                  On smaller boats like this a hard case car pack is perfect.

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                  • ray schrauwen
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9471

                    #69
                    Point this Novak System to me... I'll look at it...
                    Nortavlag Bulc

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                    • ray schrauwen
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9471

                      #70
                      I would but, I would have to start modifying to fit 4000 packs.... eventually....

                      Remember the water is quickly getting hard up here lol...

                      2 x 1600 is what I have on hand.
                      Nortavlag Bulc

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                      • BILL OXIDEAN
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1494

                        #71
                        Originally posted by ray schrauwen
                        Point this Novak System to me... I'll look at it...
                        This system will get you 50+mph on 2s



                        Less than 200 bux plus the motor is of high value bacause to change winds you only buy a 30 dollar stator

                        If you bolt this in, you will be telling a friend Lol..

                        Here's what it will do for you..

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                        • Rumdog
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 6453

                          #72
                          That ESC is rated at 540 amps!!!
                          And the suggested operating temp of the motor is 160 degrees!
                          WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
                          If that's true, it is one badass setup!

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                          • BILL OXIDEAN
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1494

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Rumdog
                            That ESC is rated at 540 amps!!!
                            And the suggested operating temp of the motor is 160 degrees!
                            WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
                            If that's true, it is one badass setup!
                            Their amp rating system is much different than what is typically used in boats, its capable of about 150-200 continuous

                            The motor hits optimum power band at about 160

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                            • Rumdog
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 6453

                              #74
                              That is awesome. No need for cooling really. Runtime with a 10,000 kv motor would be strictly SAW type though.
                              There are a few different options too. Price is actually quite good.

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                              • BILL OXIDEAN
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 1494

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Rumdog
                                That is awesome. No need for cooling really. Runtime with a 10,000 kv motor would be strictly SAW type though.
                                There are a few different options too. Price is actually quite good.

                                I've been able to get away with it running zero cooling on the motor in a 5-lap heat race! I now cool the speedo

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