Should spec the shaft diameter as well as the wire gauge.
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If it works out for you Tony I'll take two!MODEL BOAT RACER
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Jeepers, I've got a pair of 2 pole 2300kv motors kicking around, rated at 1100 watts max. Cost me a whole $14 each on sale. Basically a Feigao knock off, 36 x 60, they are in a box if I'm desperate.Nortavlag Bulc
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The experimentally inclined could have been frankenstatoring all along. I didn't see any.
Most people just want race. Inventing some obscene abomination of a motor to beat some nuckleheads that you see all the time at every race you go to? Not likely.Noisy personComment
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The experimentally inclined could have been frankenstatoring all along. I didn't see any.Some are working on that, I've done some experimenting myself. Like I said it's early.
A guy would have to be blind or something to think there is no difference in performance & longevity with the "optimized" motors. We know it is and will continue to happen as long as they have a dimension rule, and until they are convinced they have found the ceiling. It will be interesting to see where that is, and the combinations used to get there. Is it a bad thing? I guess that depends on if you're leading or following, shaking, or baking.
It's ok regardless, let's race!MODEL BOAT RACER
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I promised myself to stay out of these discussions BUT I do race two "Ltd." classes every season so I'm affected by what's going on, Sooo...
I agree with you Mr. Smock ; "A guy would have to be blind or something to think there is no difference in performance & longevity with the "optimized" motors".
I have two "seasoned" Ltd motors (from the original list) on my bench that have been "experimentally massaged" to endure higher stator temps and not burn up before a heat is over {at least that was the original intent}. OF COURSE there's not much distance between that intention and "let's prop up now & go faster". EEk. (these are on the bench ONLY - no replicatible data as yet BUT...)
I have a thought* (don't be scared- I've had some previously) and of course I know with knowingness that ANY suggestion can and will be met with some good-intentioned counterpoint BUT given that the updated "size" rule could be amended to include the old "as delivered by the manufacturer" codicil it would eliminate any frankenstatoring. Make it better for noobies (one of several reasons for Ltd. classes to begin with.) OK-hard to tech - sheesh
*( I also think a 10 foot eight inch long rigid frame motorcycle with a foot clutch/hand shift and no front brake is good thought, so....)2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
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'11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /MonoComment
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I promised myself to stay out of these discussions BUT I do race two "Ltd." classes every season so I'm affected by what's going on, Sooo...
I agree with you Mr. Smock ; "A guy would have to be blind or something to think there is no difference in performance & longevity with the "optimized" motors".
I have two "seasoned" Ltd motors (from the original list) on my bench that have been "experimentally massaged" to endure higher stator temps and not burn up before a heat is over {at least that was the original intent}. OF COURSE there's not much distance between that intention and "let's prop up now & go faster". EEk. (these are on the bench ONLY - no replicatible data as yet BUT...)
I have a thought* (don't be scared- I've had some previously) and of course I know with knowingness that ANY suggestion can and will be met with some good-intentioned counterpoint BUT given that the updated "size" rule could be amended to include the old "as delivered by the manufacturer" codicil it would eliminate any frankenstatoring. Make it better for noobies (one of several reasons for Ltd. classes to begin with.) OK-hard to tech - sheesh
*( I also think a 10 foot eight inch long rigid frame motorcycle with a foot clutch/hand shift and no front brake is good thought, so....)MODEL BOAT RACER
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Although Al Waters does show up on his Honda Gold Wing towing a tiny trailer with his boats inside
Not Al's but similar
goldwing.jpg2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
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Id agree. There are advantages with mod motors. The problem with be teching. It would be the honor system for the most part.I promised myself to stay out of these discussions BUT I do race two "Ltd." classes every season so I'm affected by what's going on, Sooo...
I agree with you Mr. Smock ; "A guy would have to be blind or something to think there is no difference in performance & longevity with the "optimized" motors".
I have two "seasoned" Ltd motors (from the original list) on my bench that have been "experimentally massaged" to endure higher stator temps and not burn up before a heat is over {at least that was the original intent}. OF COURSE there's not much distance between that intention and "let's prop up now & go faster". EEk. (these are on the bench ONLY - no replicatible data as yet BUT...)
I have a thought* (don't be scared- I've had some previously) and of course I know with knowingness that ANY suggestion can and will be met with some good-intentioned counterpoint BUT given that the updated "size" rule could be amended to include the old "as delivered by the manufacturer" codicil it would eliminate any frankenstatoring. Make it better for noobies (one of several reasons for Ltd. classes to begin with.) OK-hard to tech - sheesh
*( I also think a 10 foot eight inch long rigid frame motorcycle with a foot clutch/hand shift and no front brake is good thought, so....)Steven Vaccaro
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'11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /MonoComment
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