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  • Doby
    KANADA RULES!
    • Apr 2007
    • 7280

    #121
    Should spec the shaft diameter as well as the wire gauge.
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    • Doug Smock
      Moderator
      • Apr 2007
      • 5272

      #122
      Originally posted by properchopper
      BUT it opens the door to some interesting possibilities for the more "experimentally inclined"
      It has been interesting to see the various combinations of frakenstators and modificated rotors that a dimension rule yields. And it's still early.
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      • properchopper
        • Apr 2007
        • 6968

        #123
        Originally posted by Doug Smock
        It has been interesting to see the various combinations of frakenstators and modificated rotors that a dimension rule yields. And it's still early.
        My Enhanced Gaussian-Fluxdensityerator is on the way.......
        2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
        2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
        '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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        • Doug Smock
          Moderator
          • Apr 2007
          • 5272

          #124
          Originally posted by properchopper
          My Enhanced Gaussian-Fluxdensityerator is on the way.......
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          • properchopper
            • Apr 2007
            • 6968

            #125
            Originally posted by Doug Smock
            Here's a peek :

            rube.jpg
            2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
            2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
            '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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            • Doug Smock
              Moderator
              • Apr 2007
              • 5272

              #126
              If it works out for you Tony I'll take two!
              MODEL BOAT RACER
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              District 13 Director 2011- present
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              • jaike5
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 561

                #127
                fluxdensityerator, ? is that an upgrade from the Mr fusion fluxcapassator

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                • ray schrauwen
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9471

                  #128
                  Jeepers, I've got a pair of 2 pole 2300kv motors kicking around, rated at 1100 watts max. Cost me a whole $14 each on sale. Basically a Feigao knock off, 36 x 60, they are in a box if I'm desperate.
                  Nortavlag Bulc

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                  • T.S.Davis
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6221

                    #129
                    The experimentally inclined could have been frankenstatoring all along. I didn't see any.

                    Most people just want race. Inventing some obscene abomination of a motor to beat some nuckleheads that you see all the time at every race you go to? Not likely.
                    Noisy person

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                    • Doug Smock
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 5272

                      #130
                      The experimentally inclined could have been frankenstatoring all along. I didn't see any.
                      Look what happened when they were given a dimension to build to. The "fuse" has been relocated to outside the can. Some are working on that, I've done some experimenting myself. Like I said it's early.
                      A guy would have to be blind or something to think there is no difference in performance & longevity with the "optimized" motors. We know it is and will continue to happen as long as they have a dimension rule, and until they are convinced they have found the ceiling. It will be interesting to see where that is, and the combinations used to get there. Is it a bad thing? I guess that depends on if you're leading or following, shaking, or baking.

                      It's ok regardless, let's race!
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                      • properchopper
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 6968

                        #131
                        I promised myself to stay out of these discussions BUT I do race two "Ltd." classes every season so I'm affected by what's going on, Sooo...

                        I agree with you Mr. Smock ; "A guy would have to be blind or something to think there is no difference in performance & longevity with the "optimized" motors".

                        I have two "seasoned" Ltd motors (from the original list) on my bench that have been "experimentally massaged" to endure higher stator temps and not burn up before a heat is over {at least that was the original intent}. OF COURSE there's not much distance between that intention and "let's prop up now & go faster". EEk. (these are on the bench ONLY - no replicatible data as yet BUT...)

                        I have a thought* (don't be scared- I've had some previously) and of course I know with knowingness that ANY suggestion can and will be met with some good-intentioned counterpoint BUT given that the updated "size" rule could be amended to include the old "as delivered by the manufacturer" codicil it would eliminate any frankenstatoring. Make it better for noobies (one of several reasons for Ltd. classes to begin with.) OK-hard to tech - sheesh

                        *( I also think a 10 foot eight inch long rigid frame motorcycle with a foot clutch/hand shift and no front brake is good thought, so....)
                        2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                        2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                        '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                        • Doug Smock
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 5272

                          #132
                          Originally posted by properchopper
                          I promised myself to stay out of these discussions BUT I do race two "Ltd." classes every season so I'm affected by what's going on, Sooo...

                          I agree with you Mr. Smock ; "A guy would have to be blind or something to think there is no difference in performance & longevity with the "optimized" motors".

                          I have two "seasoned" Ltd motors (from the original list) on my bench that have been "experimentally massaged" to endure higher stator temps and not burn up before a heat is over {at least that was the original intent}. OF COURSE there's not much distance between that intention and "let's prop up now & go faster". EEk. (these are on the bench ONLY - no replicatible data as yet BUT...)

                          I have a thought* (don't be scared- I've had some previously) and of course I know with knowingness that ANY suggestion can and will be met with some good-intentioned counterpoint BUT given that the updated "size" rule could be amended to include the old "as delivered by the manufacturer" codicil it would eliminate any frankenstatoring. Make it better for noobies (one of several reasons for Ltd. classes to begin with.) OK-hard to tech - sheesh

                          *( I also think a 10 foot eight inch long rigid frame motorcycle with a foot clutch/hand shift and no front brake is good thought, so....)
                          MODEL BOAT RACER
                          IMPBA President
                          District 13 Director 2011- present
                          IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
                          IMPBA 19887L CD
                          NAMBA 1169

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                          • properchopper
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 6968

                            #133
                            Originally posted by T.S.Davis
                            The experimentally inclined could have been frankenstatoring all along. I didn't see any.

                            Most people just want race. Inventing some obscene abomination of a motor to beat some nuckleheads that you see all the time at every race you go to? Not likely.
                            Don't really see too many of these at races, actually...... [1936 H-D Knucklehead]


                            knuckle.jpg

                            Although Al Waters does show up on his Honda Gold Wing towing a tiny trailer with his boats inside

                            Not Al's but similar

                            goldwing.jpg
                            2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                            2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                            '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                            • Steven Vaccaro
                              Administrator
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8720

                              #134
                              Id agree. There are advantages with mod motors. The problem with be teching. It would be the honor system for the most part.
                              Originally posted by properchopper
                              I promised myself to stay out of these discussions BUT I do race two "Ltd." classes every season so I'm affected by what's going on, Sooo...

                              I agree with you Mr. Smock ; "A guy would have to be blind or something to think there is no difference in performance & longevity with the "optimized" motors".

                              I have two "seasoned" Ltd motors (from the original list) on my bench that have been "experimentally massaged" to endure higher stator temps and not burn up before a heat is over {at least that was the original intent}. OF COURSE there's not much distance between that intention and "let's prop up now & go faster". EEk. (these are on the bench ONLY - no replicatible data as yet BUT...)

                              I have a thought* (don't be scared- I've had some previously) and of course I know with knowingness that ANY suggestion can and will be met with some good-intentioned counterpoint BUT given that the updated "size" rule could be amended to include the old "as delivered by the manufacturer" codicil it would eliminate any frankenstatoring. Make it better for noobies (one of several reasons for Ltd. classes to begin with.) OK-hard to tech - sheesh

                              *( I also think a 10 foot eight inch long rigid frame motorcycle with a foot clutch/hand shift and no front brake is good thought, so....)
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                              Steven Vaccaro

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                              • properchopper
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 6968

                                #135
                                If rule passes I'm ready (motor pic's stolen from IW posted by )


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                                mot1.jpg mot2.jpg
                                2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                                2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                                '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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