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I don't think so Mike. Not for the Cup. It's kind of a big deal to those pursuing it.Noisy personComment
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ok thenWe call ourselves the "Q"Comment
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u skaird of a couple o girls???? it makes it harder for them cause they both cant get all firsts and there will be only 1 class overlap?We call ourselves the "Q"Comment
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Ava drives better than I do. Let her drive the big boats daddy.Noisy personComment
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This thread is gettin me all "jazzed up" for a big race..Comment
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I hear ya Wilmer. I was following that thread of Kens in the main forum about 140 plus racer and 600 plus boats signed up to race here/there/everywhere. Got me to thinking about the 05 NATS where we had 522 entries at a single race. More fun than anyone should be allowed to have by law. We need to all bang our collective heads together and make something happen like that again. Gonna make that my personal quest for the future.
.........in the mean time, still no Jason Sims on my sign up page. WTH What do I have to do? Insult his mother? Does he eat barbeque? The smoker will be out all day smell'n up the place. Maybe if I buy him some beef brisket on Saturday. Perhaps an adult beverage after hours. haha I really want my guys to get a chance to race against the lord of the ring.
.........OMG I've resorted blowing smoke up his butt. See how low I've sunk Jason? That right there is dedication.
BTW. Former APBA President Mark Webber donated the Muncey Trophy that was won by Bill Muncey back in 1972. That trophy will remain at the Elks lodge for years to come. That's the plan. They (the Elks) are still on the fence about how to award this. They are leaning towards placing the name of the team that wins the MI Cup on the trophy but there is also a desire to link the award to sportsmanship. They just haven't figured out a way to do that. Still working on it.
Mark is the keeper of the Gold Cup. Some of you will have heard of that. I believe it's the oldest trophy in racing. That thing travels in a case like the Stanley Cup. Mark lives about 20 minutes from our site. There is always a possibility that the cup will make an appearance at this gig. No guarantees but it's happened before.Noisy personComment
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Wow thats really cool Terry, My Daughter Nina wears her Gold Cup hat all the time!!!! It's her racing hat!!! This really is gonna be a great race, I'm thinking I gotta bring a LSH just to toss around w/ you guys. is the cup like a high points award?? or is there a high points award? I like the way they did it at the Northern lights open, just take your 2-3 best classes and total the points from each heat and add em up? scale doesnt count cause its 5 rounds. Am I bringing the Cup from my house? or is this a new cup? I know I asked before but is there ANY way to know the past Mi cup winners? There are 10 of them. Maybe Chris fine might know???We call ourselves the "Q"Comment
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Mike, bring the Cup.
The Cup is 3 racers, 3 classes each, no overlap.
High points will be done like the Nationals. Higher count classes garner more points.
We also have Mister Offshore which in my opinion is harder to win than high points. You run in the nastiest water the pond sees and have to finish. A lot.
The Muncey trophy will remain on site. At our last race committee meeting we spent more time talking about that than anything. There were a number of possibilities All the ones we came up with ignore their desire to include some manner of sportsmanship so there may still be an adjustment.
Some that we came up with were:
Raw points for Q plus sized classes. Really narrows down the contenders. Didn't seem fair. No sportsmanship involved
Raw points for all classes. Same problem
We also talked about 1 point for each first place finish. So the winner would be the guy that finished first the most. No points for second. A little different twist. Then guys will try to run 17 classes. ugh Turns into a cubic dollar arms race. That would narrow the field down to 3 guys most years too.
We even talked about the "pick a couple classes" approach like the North Lights but how fair is that really? A guy with a brand new SV27R going to his first race could have the exact same points as the guy that has spent the last 2 years developing his 1/8 scale. Fair? Maybe. I guess. Would we have ties? Yep.
There were more. None address their desire for it to include the human factor the Elks organization embraces. Haven't figure a way to do that.
That's how we came back to a permanent record of the MiCup winners at the Elks site.
Clear as mud.Noisy personComment
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no you dont pick classes for the northern lights you take your 2 best classes and add up each heat, so a 1'st 2nd and 3rd would get you 925 plus a 2 forsts and a 3rd would get you 1025 s0 that would get you 1950 total, you would pretty much need 2 perfect classes to win.We call ourselves the "Q"Comment
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or make it your best 3 classes?? at the northern lights there were a lot of drivers last year and there was no tie, and they only used your best 2 classes, I won 5 classes and I wasnt even in the running for High points!We call ourselves the "Q"Comment
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Well if that be the case I'll run SV27 and P Spec mono with the new guys. See why it isn't fair? Awarding high points to a guy running against almost no other boats just doesn't set well for me. We also have done it where it was just raw points. I think Junior had like 10000 points.
Not at this race but a guy could dominate N1 mono and N1 hydro against two kids that are at their first real race and now he's high points champion. Don't think we want that necessarily either.
There is no best way so we try to make sure there is something for everyone.Noisy personComment
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You've got the Cup for Team Points and an Individual High Points Award. Make the Muncey Cup 100% about sportsmanship. There's always a stand-out at events that should be recognized for their character. Fits right in with what the Elk's are about.
I'm thinking Davis would have grabbed it in '09 if it wasn't for the speedo-wearing bystander that decided to take a swim mid-race.
Have 3 guys on the lookout for a winner during the event, they have a quick discussion before the awards ceremony, then a nice presentation during it.Comment
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