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  • drwayne
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • May 2008
    • 2981

    #91
    Originally posted by ray schrauwen
    They sell a 63V version that Maxmekker installed. Maybe a typo Wayne or do they have a 35V version too??
    A diff branded 35V, sorry.
    However, I'll cover my ass by saying I subconsciously intended to say cap voltage +20% of packs is best for power circuits.

    Originally posted by maxmekker
    just with some tape now. 2 set's of lipo's charged, and if it works, temps/speed etc are good, I will sit down and do a better job. soon to cold and dark here in Norway to do boating anyway,( when sept hit's it's like a switch, chilly and early dark)
    but I have some fresh 65-130c 5000 lipo's just in the door I want to try out.
    If it's cold outside, make sure your packs are warmed to ~body temp. makes for much better performance and longevity your packs.
    W
    Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
    @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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    • maxmekker
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 412

      #92
      Yea doc, got it covered. It's not that cold, just to cold to swim for the boat if it....... uho did I just say that..... hehe.
      Drammen rock City

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      • maxmekker
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 412

        #93
        2 sets of lipos today, barely made it before it was to dark.
        Sorry about the wind noise. 45-90c lipos first, then 65-130 later in the clip. Temp readings at the end.
        It feels ok, not as strong as my friends mystic with the same setup though . Also it has some slight stutter as you can hear @ 1,44-1,46 and 2,25-2,27 in the clip .like it's cutting out a fraction of a second

        Running a x442 in this clip. Will test with 642 an 445 tomorrow.

        Drammen rock City

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        • tlandauer
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2011
          • 5666

          #94
          Looks great! I think the boat is really dialed in and very quick, do you think it is just you who thinks it is slower than your friend's?
          I hear the stutter, but I am not knowledgeable to say anything.
          In any case, glad you fixed the ESC and thanks to drwayne, I learned something very important!
          Too many boats, not enough time...

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          • maxmekker
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 412

            #95
            hehe maybe. I'm just impressed with the mystic hull, better molded than my geico, that's for sure. I think I will try to add the mystic rudder during the winter, less stuff in the water 'behind there'

            besides that it's running again, more packs tomorrow , will report back then to let you know how it holds up :-)
            Drammen rock City

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            • Basstronics
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Jun 2008
              • 2345

              #96
              And I did assemble them backwards... d'oh.

              Desoldering braid to the rescue!
              42" Osprey, 32" Pursuit, 26" Bling Rocket (rescue), Blizzard Rigger, JAE 21FE rigger, Hobby King rigger (RIP)

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              • millzee
                Ozzie Bloke
                • Nov 2010
                • 1092

                #97
                Originally posted by ray schrauwen
                Can I ask why is it bad to remove the old ones as pictured and run it as pictured? What happens? What will go wrong?

                EDIT: That is if they have all gone bad, not if they were still good.
                RE post #45
                NOthing
                http://www.youtube.com/user/1millzee?feature=mhum
                "Gimmy Toyz for FUN"

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                • drwayne
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • May 2008
                  • 2981

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Basstronics
                  And I did assemble them backwards... d'oh.

                  Desoldering braid to the rescue!
                  Yep, that's what my edumacated eyes told me.

                  The metal canisters containing the capacitor should not touch any power rails.. and all yours touched both red/black !
                  That's a nasty short out waiting to happen... kerBOOM.


                  Millzee.
                  With low loading the capacitor bank alternative ( post#1) was good.
                  Under more demand, as informed, the esc failed.
                  Have exchanged one my own to the bloke who purchased that esc s/h.. he now runs with big smiles regularly
                  - I do hope to infuse life back into this deceased.
                  This how-to thread will hopefully educate the unlearned away from such cremations.
                  W
                  Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
                  @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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                  • millzee
                    Ozzie Bloke
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1092

                    #99
                    [QUOTE=drwayne;

                    Millzee.
                    With low loading the capacitor bank alternative ( post#1) was good.
                    Under more demand, as informed, the esc failed.
                    Have exchanged one my own to the bloke who purchased that esc s/h.. he now runs with big smiles regularly
                    - I do hope to infuse life back into this deceased.
                    This how-to thread will hopefully educate the unlearned away from such cremations.
                    W[/QUOTE]

                    so a x450/3, neu 1527 1.5d 1500kv on 6s in a df35 pirate isn't high draw?
                    http://www.youtube.com/user/1millzee?feature=mhum
                    "Gimmy Toyz for FUN"

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                    • millzee
                      Ozzie Bloke
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1092

                      #100
                      I found the answer to my part in this, post #9 at the botom
                      http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...wordfish-240hv

                      Played yesterday and won both games, we wear green so the white is not an issue!!
                      http://www.youtube.com/user/1millzee?feature=mhum
                      "Gimmy Toyz for FUN"

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                      • maxmekker
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 412

                        #101
                        More testing today,and it's holding up nice.

                        Only issue is the 65-130c lipo's and the m445 prop. I only had one pair of 45-90c so I could not test that and the m445 to se if that had any effect.

                        6 min's clip ore skip to 2,00 to see the M445 run. Not sure why, maybe anybody have a theory..

                        Drammen rock City

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                        • drwayne
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • May 2008
                          • 2981

                          #102
                          Originally posted by maxmekker
                          More testing today,and it's holding up nice.
                          Only issue is the 65-130c lipo's and the m445 prop. I only had one pair of 45-90c so I could not test that and the m445 to se if that had any effect.
                          6 min's clip ore skip to 2,00 to see the M445 run. Not sure why, maybe anybody have a theory..
                          [/video]
                          maxmekker should take this to the video thread so lots more ppl can see and admire and comment

                          I see&hear the boat at speed surging hophophophophop on the prop.
                          X series props are low lift, but still too much for yours... x642+x442 show this by hopping the backside around badly.
                          Or.. and at 2.19 that bent edge made me wonder..are the props not sharp ?....
                          This will kill the esc due Amp spiking as it loads/releases on the prop.
                          LMK W

                          ps.. Love the great vid work showing temps and props.. where are the girls watching and cheering ?
                          Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
                          @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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                          • maxmekker
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 412

                            #103
                            Haha you are to funny. :-)

                            Well I dont do my props , I got them all done from funrcboats . I know they should maybe be DT ore maybe eveen sharper , but I can't sharpen props for sh....

                            The one I have used mostly, well all the time infact (since , like you point out, the boat is heavy on the whawhawha hophophop etc ) is the M445, that makes MY geico the most stable. I normaly don't use the X props I have, they work wonderful on my FRIENDS mystic, the boat flies with the X642 prop, and almost zero hopedihophopedihophopedihop, but he has been lucky with the mold of his boat. No need to fix the transoms, and the rudder assembly is wery clean from proboat on mystic compared to that on the geico boat.

                            Anyway , as you can se, it wont run on the 65-130c + the M445. I did not have another 45-90c lipo pack with me to test if that had any cause, next time I will :-)

                            I will drive it like it is for the rest of the month, and then it's on the shelf, and I'll just get a new one next year.

                            ps: the girls were in the bush's behind me getting ready for skinny dipping, unfortunately the camera was low on battery :-\
                            Drammen rock City

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                            • drwayne
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • May 2008
                              • 2981

                              #104
                              the 65-130 are heavier than 45-90 ?
                              Move them back in the hull to reset cog.

                              You need to reset your priorities.
                              Girls first, playtime rc boats last.

                              W
                              Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
                              @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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                              • Paul21
                                Member
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 42

                                #105
                                Hi couldt find info in forum search so try here hope it ok. So plan on running 12s on 5692 730kv sf240hv pro twin setup and need to find out what is used to stop spark when plug in batts and now to install it tks

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