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  • dag-nabit
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 775

    #76
    Originally posted by Brushless55
    not the same thing bro
    if Traxxas says it does low 50's (50mph+), we should be seeing 51-54mph on 6s no matter what.. stock prop on 2 3s packs

    and your epa comments...
    EPA regulations are a lot defferent today even over the past 5-7 years
    they take the cars and trucks and run them on computers and take them out in the real world with real conditions!
    they don't run with a tail wind and tires over inflated to get more mpg that you and I would get in the real world
    not a concept but factual data

    Just would be nice if they didn't have the lame claims and had good stuff like AQ and PB


    I didn't say tail wind, I said no wind, and I didn't say overinflated tires, I said properly inflated tires. i.e controlled conditions.

    And if you think vehicle emissions/fuel economy testing isn't done under controlled test conditions, you are living in a dream world bro.

    From the EPA web site:

    Certification Emission Test Data

    All new cars and trucks sold in the U.S. must be certified to meet federal emission standards. This is accomplished by performing laboratory tests on pre-production vehicles. Most testing is performed by manufacturers at their own facilities. EPA audits the data from this testing and performs its own testing on some of these vehicles to confirm the manufacturers' results. All of this test data is available to the public for review and analysis.


    Note that it says laboratory tests, and at the manufactures "own facilities". That isn't real world testing.

    The EPA performs independent testing on some vehicles. Admittedly, I don't know if EPA testing is done real world, or in an independent test facility.

    Concept is exactly the same. Real world performance may not equal performance under controlled test conditions, and manufactures are going to accentuate positive data to sell their products.

    We as consumers have the choice not to purchase if we feel the manufacture is in any way misleading or unethical, or if we feel the quality of the product is sub standard. We can also file complaints with various consumer advocacy groups should we choose to do so.

    I don't have any hands on with PB, but I agree with you, my AQ products have proven to be excellent.
    Last edited by dag-nabit; 02-12-2011, 01:44 PM.

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    • Diesel6401
      Memento Vivere
      • Oct 2009
      • 4204

      #77
      Originally posted by Brushless55
      I'm thinking they did it running it down hill!
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      "It is easier to be wise for others than for ourselves"

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      • JPriami
        N4FOX
        • Aug 2010
        • 1675

        #78
        I've got a nice traxxas bouy out here on the lake.

        Last edited by JPriami; 03-29-2011, 07:00 PM.
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        • JPriami
          N4FOX
          • Aug 2010
          • 1675

          #79
          ....
          Last edited by JPriami; 02-12-2011, 07:00 PM.
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          • JPriami
            N4FOX
            • Aug 2010
            • 1675

            #80
            Just got to the lake and was about to test my traxxas spartan after a few adjustments & mods. It ended up just going airborne and flipped then turned into a buoy. Ripped the canopy clean off the boat. Good thing I installed flotation on the underside of it. Had to call a friend to bring me my paddle boat so I could go get it.
            Next time ill pay a little more attention to the wind and not head into it when testing a new setup at wot.

            Damages so far just seem to be a busted rudder servo. Drying out the electronics now then will test later.

            Land, Sea & Air, A true RC Addict.

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            • LarrysDrifter
              Big Booty Daddy
              • May 2010
              • 3278

              #81
              Whoops.That sucks.I lost a hatch on my old rat boat because I didnt feel like adding flotation to it.

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              • Rumdog
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Mar 2009
                • 6453

                #82
                You may have hit something in the water there. Doesn't look like a blowover. Plus, the busted servo..

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                • JPriami
                  N4FOX
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 1675

                  #83
                  Maybe but not sure.
                  It happened after i gunned then throttle the rest of the way. I was testing a new prop. I think it started to wheelie up then there she went.
                  Here is a video I redid in slow motion.
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                  • martin
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 2887

                    #84
                    I think that took off rather than hit something, It was coming up for to long before it finally went. Judging by how you can clearly see the spray coming of the prop being blown by the wind when the boat was first going away from the bank. That was going into what must have been quite a strong head wind when it lifted. Thanks Martin.

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                    • JPriami
                      N4FOX
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 1675

                      #85
                      Yeah I'm sure the wind had a good factor in it too. Normally I go wot downwind when testing something new and not knowing what exactly to expect. This time I was being ignorant and not thinking about it.
                      Land, Sea & Air, A true RC Addict.

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                      • Rumdog
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 6453

                        #86
                        Yup. I can see it now in slomo

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                        • martin
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 2887

                          #87
                          Nothing to do with this crash but is it me or does the Spartan appear in the pictures ive seen of the transom to have a much steeper dead rise angle than most of the good deep v hulls around. What affect would this have on this hulls running characteristics if it turns out to be steeper. Thanks Martin.

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                          • Make-a-Wake
                            FE Rules!
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 5557

                            #88
                            Watched it several times....................dont think it hit anything........it just took off.
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                            • JPriami
                              N4FOX
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 1675

                              #89
                              Got to run today. It wasn’t to bad. I did jump out of the water hitting a wake but, at least it didn’t jump up and crash :D
                              I was able to run wot and make some really nice passes with no death wobble!
                              So balancing the boat (little heavier on the left) out seems to have really helped it.
                              Sadly I only hit 53.8Mph today with the M645 prop. I was looking for high 50’s . And 47mph on the M445 that I had previously reproduced a couple times a 54mph speed. Seemed odd.
                              I feel it’s a couple reasons (hopefully) something to do with the previous water crash and making it a buoy for about an hour and all the electronics got soaked to some degree. Even some was inside the esc case. I water proofed it a little better now. I think all the settings on the esc were wiped out. I didn’t think to check and reset them when I got the boat back together.
                              The other reason being I went airborne last time, this time I had the packs for weight up further in the hull. BTW I know this isn’t the main reason it didn’t death wobble because ive run with the packs there before and had the same wobble.
                              Now that I seen it go today and it ran nice, I will start shifting the weight back and see if it gets faster. If not maybe try adjusting the strut. I’ll be happy to get it finished so I can just go and run it with confidence on how it runs consistently. But then again it might sit on the shelf after that because I’ll need another challenge and something to mess with.

                              I just had a thought i need to test my gps too. It was soaked for that hour in the crash and didnt work for a while. I'll try it on the way to work tomorrow.
                              Last edited by JPriami; 02-17-2011, 11:06 PM.
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                              • Brushless55
                                Creator
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 9488

                                #90
                                Justin, I hope nothing is jacked..
                                if you do move your packs back some like 1" at a time or even just 1/2" at a time, you should see a bit more speed out of it..
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