***NEW**** Pro Boat Voracity 36" Mono!!

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  • hobby_man
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 103

    #211
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    polished and balanced the stock prop, may detoung the prop next.

    117 amps 4 minute run time full throttle
    6s 5000 mah pack

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    • arrover
      Senior Member
      • May 2015
      • 322

      #212
      Nice pictures. Very interesting. My cooling hoses came arranged like yours with the front ESC hose on the verge of being kinked. Some other guys pointed out that the cooling water should exit the top of the motor to help avoid air pockets inside the motor cooling jacket. I think that two hoses might be incorrectly installed on our boats. Take the short hose off of the front of the ESC and put it between the ESC and the bottom motor inlet. Then take the hose that was between the ESC and top motor inlet and put that on the front of the ESC. Then the water exits the top of the motor and exits the boat. The hose lengths fit perfectly, the motor should cool better, and the ESC loop isn't kinked anymore.
      ProBoat Zelos 36 Twin, Voracity 36, Impulse 31, Stealthwake 23, and HobbyKing Flowmaster Videos

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      • Xtreme Thunder
        Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 34

        #213
        Originally posted by Rafael_Lopez
        BTW, the motor and ESC have 12g wire. Someone asked a few posts back.
        Thanks Rafael, I did notice when I opened the box after I asked that night that the boat wiring was 12g.

        Originally posted by kfxguy
        I would sharpen and balance the prop that came on it. Set the timing at 15 degrees (only with a 180 amp and up Esc!!!) and it'll do over 60. I would not use a x648, that prop pulls a bit more amps. I'd detounge the stock prop also. What most of you guys fail to realize is the prop that's on it is plenty. It's just needs some work. If you don't know how to work a prop, contact Dasboata and tell him you want a m645. I have another prop in mind but I won't recommend it until I know it'll work. Stay tuned because when I get mine I'm doing a sort of test thread on it.
        Originally posted by kfxguy
        I like the way the x646 looks, but not how it performs. In back to back testing the m645 was a bit faster and easier on stuff. I wouldn't. If you going to buy a prop, I'd get a m645. It will unload the motor some and you'll pick up speed without any negative effects. If you want to hold off for a couple days, my boat will be here Monday and I'll let you know for sure what prop it likes. I'm going to baseline the stock prop. then I'll s/b it to see if it's worth it. I'll also try a few different props I have to see what it likes. I've got lots of props so I'll do the work for you guys. I have to and you have to keep in mind that the stock setup is meant to work with the prop it has and we cannot add anything more aggressive so we don't let the smoke out. So I'll be doing what I do with that in mind. I have a feeling the stock prop is probably one of the best choices for it (it really is a good prop, just needs sharpening). I'm going to tell you this, I've tried raw props vs a sharpened prop and I can tell you depending on the casting, it can be a big difference. Stay tuned and I'll test the stock prop s/b.
        I can't wait to read and learn from the experienced, will be on the look-out for your thread!

        Originally posted by Rafael_Lopez
        Haha, thanks Travis. This is one of the perks of carrying the internet one's pocket; I can answer questions poolside.

        No trouble at all. It's my pleasure to be able to have such close contact with our customers. I feel customer service is as important and making quality products. As a customer myself, I can overlook issues with a product if the company does whatever they can to make up for a product's downfall. Customer service is what's kept HH alive for 30 years now.
        I am impressed as well. Usually the staff only stays on the manufacturer's forums and heaven forbid (in some instances) you mention an aftermarket company, however, I like the service and answers directly from the source, even on a forum that is not owned and operated by the manufacturer. Many manufacturer's are working with a whole new generation, that most prefer the online forum environment and nice to see a company that recognizes adding that shift in communication. Excellent work, and this thread already has a wealth of information!

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        In addition, what type of grease is recommended for the shaft? I know, indeed, an amateur question! Haha! The instructions just called off a couple Dynamite part numbers, but didn't indicate the type. I may already have some in the garage!

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        • Tamelesstgr
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Jun 2014
          • 1512

          #214
          Guess I better start saving, lol, Christmas will be right around the corner.
          NEVER SATISFIED RACING
          Fine Design 32 V-Hull 4082+6s

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          • hobby_man
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 103

            #215
            that hose set up makes more sense, I was looking at the short hose and was going to replace it due to the almost kink in it

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            • paulfromtulsa
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2013
              • 211

              #216
              I did some temp testing today and with a dual cooling line my motor temp was 20 degrees lower than it was when I only had one line.

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              • paulfromtulsa
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 211

                #217
                How do you guys think the voracity would do on 8s? I have an extra leopard 4082 1600kv motor laying around so I thought I might buy a swordfish 200amp pro esc and pair it with the leopard motor and run 8s. Thoughts ?

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                • Darin Jordan
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 8332

                  #218
                  Originally posted by paulfromtulsa
                  How do you guys think the voracity would do on 8s? I have an extra leopard 4082 1600kv motor laying around so I thought I might buy a swordfish 200amp pro esc and pair it with the leopard motor and run 8s. Thoughts ?
                  I think you should put that motor in and run it on 6S.... You are going to have a hard time getting the correct balance with that much battery up front if you try it on 8S, and frankly, 1600KV is too hot for 8S... 6S is already giving you 35,520+ RPM... That's already more than is generally recommended for a Mono... especially a sport runner...
                  Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                  "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                  • T.S.Davis
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6228

                    #219
                    Originally posted by Darin Jordan
                    frankly, 1600KV is too hot for 8S... 6S is already giving you 35,520+ RPM...
                    haha Careful Darin. I know you help design boats for a major manufacturer and all but I've been told that's old school thinking and doesn't apply any more. Sorry,couldn't resist.

                    So they hit the shelves maybe a week ago and we're already wanting more power than the boat was designed for? FE is predictable if nothing else.
                    Noisy person

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                    • montymike
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 774

                      #220
                      Originally posted by hobby_man
                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]135693[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]135694[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]135695[/ATTACH]

                      polished and balanced the stock prop, may detoung the prop next.

                      117 amps 4 minute run time full throttle
                      6s 5000 mah pack
                      No headroom for a bigger prop. Stock..

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                      • Darin Jordan
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 8332

                        #221
                        Originally posted by montymike
                        No headroom for a bigger prop. Stock..
                        Perhaps not "bigger", but bigger isn't always better. More efficient is what you are looking for... Sharp and thin would be a great starting point...
                        Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                        "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                        • montymike
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 774

                          #222
                          By my calculations this prop = to x445 total 1.4x2.478 proboat spec but everyone says x645?

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                          • montymike
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 774

                            #223
                            By my calculations this prop = to x445 total 1.4x2.478 proboat spec but everyone says x645 2.842 ?

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                            • paulfromtulsa
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 211

                              #224
                              Originally posted by Darin Jordan
                              I think you should put that motor in and run it on 6S.... You are going to have a hard time getting the correct balance with that much battery up front if you try it on 8S, and frankly, 1600KV is too hot for 8S... 6S is already giving you 35,520+ RPM... That's already more than is generally recommended for a Mono... especially a sport runner...
                              Hey Darrin you say to put my leopard in the boat and use 6s. Wouldn't the stock motor be faster than the leopard cause its 1650kv? The Leopard might run cooler but I'm not having heat issues.

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                              • Rafael_Lopez
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 470

                                #225
                                I advised a few posts backs about not having any headroom in the ESC for a another prop other than what it comes with or the ESC will over amp and shut down, not burn up.The ESC rating of 120a is 80% of the total Amperage rating which is typical of any ESC on the market. 80% is the maximum amount recommended for continuous current flow in the electronics/electrical industry. The amperage I see on that Watt meter is exactly what I saw through testing, nearing ESCs limit, and I doubt anyone has yet to see the ESC shut down. Seems like the ESC is working as I anticipated it would

                                Listen to Darin regarding props. I said this previously too. A well worked prop will work better than a larger one or one with more pitch.

                                Montymike, I'll work on updating our prop specs. The stock prop is definitely an equivelant to an x645, not a 445.
                                Rafael Lopez
                                Product Developer-Pro Boat
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