Proboat Blackjack 29" V3 - new hull, 2000kv motor, 120A ESC & EC5 plugs.

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  • Darin Jordan
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 8335

    #61
    Originally posted by T.S.Davis
    Maybe I missed it but is the canopy of a thicker construction than the last version? The old one would disintegrate if you stuffed it just right.
    Terry, the ENTIRE boat is "thicker"... Heavier glass layup, new canopy opening shape (rectangular instead of curved), glass canopy, etc...
    Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
    "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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    • Buddyroe
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 28

      #62
      Originally posted by iop65
      angle?
      Lil positive trim. My pics don't work sometimes. Charge your battery's and go test.

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      • RCBoaterGuy
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2014
        • 213

        #63
        Gregster82 put a link to the manual in post #27... There is a chart in it, the chart & default values are exactly the same as the Seaking chart I attached to post #9.

        Here are my recommendations based on real world experience's...

        Item #1 - default = 2 - direction = [Forward & Reverse] -- Change it to 1 [Forward Only]

        Item #2 - default = [Auto] {Let the ESC detect the number of cells of your LiPo pack(s)} - I don't trust auto, set it to the actual number of cells the LiPo pack(s) have. -- For my SW26 running a single 3S pack, the setting is 3 - for Miss Geico 29 & Impulse 31 the setting is 4 (2x 2S packs)

        Item #3 - default = 4 - [Low Voltage Cutoff = 3.2V/Cell] - I'm comfortable with that setting & use it

        Item #4 - default = 5 - [timing = 15.00°] - As stated in post #9 "that is wayyyy too high!!" it will make your motor run hot, probably the ESC & batteries too, also lower run times because of higher amp draw.

        Real world experience with my boats has taught me that 7.5° timing is top of the mark, past that & problems start. With my trucks it's 7.5° or 11.25° depending on the setup & other factors. The reduced timing has resulted in cooler running motors & batteries.

        In this thread... http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...r-tp-3630-1950 - Doug told me to set timing to Zero or 3.75° max (post #50). He has far more experience than I do, needless to say his advice will be followed.

        Programming the Seaking \ Turnigy & various clones of them is very easy & straight forward, especially with the program card \ box.


        Originally posted by Mr_3_0_5
        Anyone have a programming box and can tell me what the factory setting of the esc are ?
        It would be greatly appreciated
        AQ MiniMono - CopterX 430XL 3550kv BL Outrunner + Seaking(V2) 35A on 2S VERY Fast
        Pro Boat SW26v3 - 2860-2600kv + Seaking(V2) 90A on 3S, Build in Progress
        Pro Boat Stealthwake 23 - Stock For Now - Brushless Down The Road

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        • Darin Jordan
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 8335

          #64
          Guys... not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, but I think that many spend WAY too much time worrying about timing and ESC settings and not enough on prop work and setup. The gains from ESC timing is really quite minimal, especially in comparison to getting a prop that works just right.
          Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
          "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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          • fusion_m8
            Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 53

            #65
            I've searched the internet until my fingers are bleedin from typin.... still no BJ29v3 owners have posted a video of their v3 running 4s or 6s!!! *sigh*

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            • RCBoaterGuy
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2014
              • 213

              #66
              Too busy worrying about how to program the ESC

              Originally posted by fusion_m8
              I've searched the internet until my fingers are bleedin from typin.... still no BJ29v3 owners have posted a video of their v3 running 4s or 6s!!! *sigh*
              AQ MiniMono - CopterX 430XL 3550kv BL Outrunner + Seaking(V2) 35A on 2S VERY Fast
              Pro Boat SW26v3 - 2860-2600kv + Seaking(V2) 90A on 3S, Build in Progress
              Pro Boat Stealthwake 23 - Stock For Now - Brushless Down The Road

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              • luv2fly27
                Member
                • Feb 2015
                • 30

                #67
                Originally posted by ray schrauwen
                Yes, its a better canopy, fiberglass to boot. I use a Tiqueman FG hatch on my geico for a few years now.
                Guys I just ran my Blackjack29 v3. Bought 2 Dynamite 3s 5000mah 50c. lipos and I upgraded the prop to an Octura M440 Sharpened and Balanced. This thing absolutely halls! Clocked at 58.6 mph!! Ran it for 9 minutes and motor and ESC warm but not hot by any means. This has the 2000kv motor and 120 Amp ESC. The new hull is awesome and rides super smooth and stable. Just wanted to share.

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                • Buddyroe
                  Junior Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 28

                  #68
                  Originally posted by luv2fly27
                  Guys I just ran my Blackjack29 v3. Bought 2 Dynamite 3s 5000mah 50c. lipos and I upgraded the prop to an Octura M440 Sharpened and Balanced. This thing absolutely halls! Clocked at 58.6 mph!! Ran it for 9 minutes and motor and ESC warm but not hot by any means. This has the 2000kv motor and 120 Amp ESC. The new hull is awesome and rides super smooth and stable. Just wanted to share.
                  That's awesome! Can't wait to go run mine now.

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                  • luv2fly27
                    Member
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 30

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Buddyroe
                    That's awesome! Can't wait to go run mine now.
                    I also made sure to apply some marine grease to my flex shaft!

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                    • siberianhusky
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 2187

                      #70
                      Must check out one of the new ones, the new(ish) Blackjack is by far my favorite of the PB cats(paint wise).
                      They do run very nice blueprinted and well set up.
                      Might have to wait and see if I can pick up a used hull and hardware. Have a bunch of 1800kv old style PB motors I can stick in it, it would be a 4s boat. Only one guy in the group runs 6s, everybody else runs 4s setups. Done the straight line speed thing, not my cup of tea, my boats have to be fast around a course with 4 or 5 other boats.
                      I do get a kick out of watching some video of the top guys doing SAW runs, what they are doing speed wise is very impressive, those boats are dialed in to perfection for the conditions at that exact time, hours and hours of testing. Lots of money spent on equipment who's life was measured in seconds.
                      If my boats upside down then who owns the one I thought I was driving the last two laps?

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                      • luv2fly27
                        Member
                        • Feb 2015
                        • 30

                        #71
                        Proboat Blackjack 29 v3, 6s LIPO, 5000mah 50c



                        Here's my Blackjack 29 v3 on 6s, (2 Reaction 3s 5000mah, 50c lipos). Sorry quality isn't the best but this thing moves!!!

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                        • Buddyroe
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 28

                          #72

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                          • Buddyroe
                            Junior Member
                            • Dec 2014
                            • 28

                            #73
                            Ran better today with a prop change. Water was choppy. A few boats had passed.

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                            • T.S.Davis
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6221

                              #74
                              What prop did the boat like?
                              Noisy person

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                              • Buddyroe
                                Junior Member
                                • Dec 2014
                                • 28

                                #75
                                GrimRacer 42x66 was fastest.
                                40x52 3blade was fun only ran 50.4 but accelerated hard.
                                Last edited by Buddyroe; 02-15-2015, 10:51 PM.

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