Proboat Blackjack 29" V3 - new hull, 2000kv motor, 120A ESC & EC5 plugs.

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  • fusion_m8
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 53

    #76
    Originally posted by luv2fly27
    Here's my Blackjack 29 v3 on 6s, (2 Reaction 3s 5000mah, 50c lipos). Sorry quality isn't the best but this thing moves!!!
    Thanks for the vid, perhaps the COG and strut still needs some ironing out but the V3 appears to still porpoise a bit on full throttle.

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    • luv2fly27
      Member
      • Feb 2015
      • 30

      #77
      Originally posted by fusion_m8
      Thanks for the vid, perhaps the COG and strut still needs some ironing out but the V3 appears to still porpoise a bit on full throttle.
      Thanks. This video was still using the stock prop. I will try and upload a video using my Octura M440 Sharpened and Balanced as well. Def made a difference.

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      • T.S.Davis
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Oct 2009
        • 6221

        #78
        I just noticed you were running 6s. Did you make any 4s runs?
        Noisy person

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        • luv2fly27
          Member
          • Feb 2015
          • 30

          #79
          Originally posted by T.S.Davis
          I just noticed you were running 6s. Did you make any 4s runs?
          Yes, I made a few 4s runs in the beginning but was considerably slower and not that exciting to run.

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          • Mr_3_0_5
            Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 32

            #80
            Stock v3 on 6s and cnc 442 ran 45.7mph
            What's the total pitch of the 42x66?


            Last edited by Mr_3_0_5; 02-19-2015, 08:06 PM.

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            • Mr_3_0_5
              Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 32

              #81
              Threw a m642 hit 50.4 and broke the flex shaft in half

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              • Buddyroe
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2014
                • 28

                #82
                I took out a shaft my 2 nd run. Think I hit reverse by accident. I removed the reverse and have not had any problems.

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                • maxmekker
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 412

                  #83
                  Now my Geico has been on the shelf for way to long, so just sold it today, looking into getting the Lucas oil instead ( I can not get the wawawa out of my Geico hull, and from the Clips on tube from LO it seems to ride much better ) But seeing this , has made me think twice. this seems like a great step up from the Geico hull. My friends Mystic was so much better to tune in, and now with this V3 hull, they must have done it all right.
                  Just wondering about the offset rudder, was the mystic design, were it would sit flush on the back of the hull , not working ? . I have the kinteck kit on my Geico, and I find it 'dragging' in the water, seems from the video this hull has some of the same design on the rudder as the Kinteck .
                  Drammen rock City

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                  • Rafael_Lopez
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 470

                    #84
                    Hi guys,

                    I'll chime in here and share some info that might be useful to some of you. This info has come about through development as well as from running my personal boat for fun.
                    1. My boat is all stock with the exception of having the bottom of the strut even with the ride pads. Prop is stock, not balanced.
                    2. With the stock timing of 15* I got a best of 50.8 mph with our Dynamite Reaction 80C 5700mah 11.1v packs, 6s. The system draws 80 amps continuous at that voltage/speed.
                    3. With the timing set to 7.5* the boat ran a best of 45.4 mph with the same packs, but amperage went down to 70 amps continuous, and motor connector temps dropped as well. This option leaves more room to play with props if you want to get back up to 50+, at your own risk.
                    4. I have found that depending on your battery weight, CG, and playing with the strut angle, you can minimize the bounce of the boat, for specific water conditions. Sometimes I only get a little bounce as it passes over my it's own ripples. I'm not saying blue printing doesn't work. It's just not the only option.


                    Hope this helps!
                    Rafael Lopez
                    Product Developer-Pro Boat
                    My Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010183246751

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                    • Buddyroe
                      Junior Member
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 28

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Rafael_Lopez
                      Hi guys,

                      I'll chime in here and share some info that might be useful to some of you. This info has come about through development as well as from running my personal boat for fun.
                      1. My boat is all stock with the exception of having the bottom of the strut even with the ride pads. Prop is stock, not balanced.
                      2. With the stock timing of 15* I got a best of 50.8 mph with our Dynamite Reaction 80C 5700mah 11.1v packs, 6s. The system draws 80 amps continuous at that voltage/speed.
                      3. With the timing set to 7.5* the boat ran a best of 45.4 mph with the same packs, but amperage went down to 70 amps continuous, and motor connector temps dropped as well. This option leaves more room to play with props if you want to get back up to 50+, at your own risk.
                      4. I have found that depending on your battery weight, CG, and playing with the strut angle, you can minimize the bounce of the boat, for specific water conditions. Sometimes I only get a little bounce as it passes over my it's own ripples. I'm not saying blue printing doesn't work. It's just not the only option.


                      Hope this helps!
                      Dynamite Reaction 80C 5700mah 11.1v packs. Do they come with EC5 connection ?

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                      • Rafael_Lopez
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 470

                        #86
                        Buddyroe, no they don't offer those with EC5 connectors. We changed the connectors on them to test them with this system. These are from when we were finding packs to recommend for this system. We opted to go recommend the 5000mAH, 50C packs because they are more affordable and honestly, the data didn't show enough of a gain to sway us to recommend the 80C packs.

                        I used those as an example because those happened to be the packs I used last. Personally, I only run Reaction 50C packs.
                        Rafael Lopez
                        Product Developer-Pro Boat
                        My Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010183246751

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                        • luv2fly27
                          Member
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 30

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Rafael_Lopez
                          Hi guys,

                          I'll chime in here and share some info that might be useful to some of you. This info has come about through development as well as from running my personal boat for fun.
                          1. My boat is all stock with the exception of having the bottom of the strut even with the ride pads. Prop is stock, not balanced.
                          2. With the stock timing of 15* I got a best of 50.8 mph with our Dynamite Reaction 80C 5700mah 11.1v packs, 6s. The system draws 80 amps continuous at that voltage/speed.
                          3. With the timing set to 7.5* the boat ran
                            a best of 45.4 mph with the same packs, but amperage went down to 70 amps continuous, and motor connector temps dropped as well. This option leaves more room to play with props if you want to get back up to 50+, at your own risk.
                          4. I have found that depending on your battery weight, CG, and playing with the strut angle, you can minimize the bounce of the boat, for specific water conditions. Sometimes I only get a little bounce as it passes over my it's own ripples. I'm not saying blue printing doesn't work. It's just not the only option.


                          Hope this helps!
                          Thanks for the good review. One question. When you say your strut is level with the pads are you raising it up a little from where it normally sits when it comes out of the box? I've been trying to mess with different strut positions (only raising it) and not seeing much of a difference. Any feedback would be appreciated.

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                          • tlandauer
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 5666

                            #88
                            As a person responsible for product development, I am sure Mr. Lopez ran the prop stock unbalanced for testing purposes. With all due respect, I would just like to remind you that for your maximum enjoyment, all metal props ( CNC props may be the exception here although I carefully thin their leading edges ) should be balanced, sharpened ( thinned) properly. The Proboat prop is heavy and some are more out of balanced than others in their "raw" form, and can cause excessive wear on the bushing of the strut.
                            Last edited by tlandauer; 02-25-2015, 02:14 AM.
                            Too many boats, not enough time...

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                            • Darin Jordan
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8335

                              #89
                              Originally posted by tlandauer
                              As a person responsible for product development, I am sure Mr. Lopez ran the prop stock unbalanced for testing purposes. With all due respect, I would just like to remind you that for your maximum enjoyment, all metal props ( CNC props may be the exception here although I carefully thin their leading edges ) should be balanced, sharpened ( thinned) properly. The Proboat prop is heavy and some are more out of balanced than others in their "raw" form, and can cause excessive wear on the bushing of the strut.
                              In many early tests with the Miss Geico (original), I actually found a 1 to 1.5mph increase using the stock black plastic prop over the original metal ones.

                              The newer metal ones are much better.

                              Like any metal prop... (yes, Grimracer props included), the owner would be well advised to at least minimally prepare them. No two out of the package are exactly the same.
                              Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                              "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                              • Buddyroe
                                Junior Member
                                • Dec 2014
                                • 28

                                #90
                                Thanks for all the info! Going to find some calm water soon as weather gets right and try putting the timing up to 15. Hoping for 60. I will video it again.

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