Proboat release new Blackjack 42" catamaran

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  • ACKopter
    Junior Member
    • May 2021
    • 27

    #136
    Another plan foiled. My removable nose weight turns out is not so removable after all. The weight is stuck up in the nose and I cant easily get it out without tearing out all the styrofoam which I dont really want to do. So, new plan of attack is, since the boat is already balanced properly with the nose weight in place I'll proceed with strut angle and height and maybe a little more weight to see if I cant get things under control. If not then Ill have no choice other than pulling out the styro and re balancing with much more additional weight in the forward battery location.

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    • jhurlbert
      Member
      • May 2019
      • 74

      #137
      I have been adding sticky tire weights in front of the esc. They wont go anywhere even at a full speed blow over and can be removed easily

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      • Raydee
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • May 2007
        • 1603

        #138
        My LHS must think there is something wrong with me. I ordered the boat last week and then two days later cancelled it. Today I decided to put the order back in and there is no way out of it this time. After seeing the posts from the HOTMPBC on FB I am pretty confident I can get it to stay on the water.
        Team Liquid Dash

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        • jevmax
          Legend
          • Aug 2007
          • 368

          #139
          Here is a link to a video taken this week. I am racing the Blackjack 42s again. This time I am running the black one on a course tight to the buoys. My competitor is a licensed Formula One driver, who has raced all over the world, but this is the first time he has gotten to run a radio control vehicle. He did well letting the white one breath through the turns and carry the speed. The BJ42 likes to drift through the corners. I may fabricate a skegged strut for one of them to see how much that tightens it up.

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          • Raydee
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • May 2007
            • 1603

            #140
            You guys def have them dialed in. I know guys don't like to give away their secrets on their race boats but I am curious to know besides the heavy packs is everything else stock?
            Team Liquid Dash

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            • ACKopter
              Junior Member
              • May 2021
              • 27

              #141
              Originally posted by jevmax
              Here is a link to a video taken this week. I am racing the Blackjack 42s again. This time I am running the black one on a course tight to the buoys. My competitor is a licensed Formula One driver, who has raced all over the world, but this is the first time he has gotten to run a radio control vehicle. He did well letting the white one breath through the turns and carry the speed. The BJ42 likes to drift through the corners. I may fabricate a skegged strut for one of them to see how much that tightens it up.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaKAEHXCHKw
              That was an awesome video, and an awesome location, thanks so much for posting that here. Now for a few questions and probably of most interest is your prop selection and how the electronics handled the almost continuous WOT for the duration of the video, did you make any modifications to the cooling system? Of course everyone here I'm sure would like to know exactly what you did to get the hull so well behaved. Please share.

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              • jevmax
                Legend
                • Aug 2007
                • 368

                #142
                Originally posted by Raydee
                You guys def have them dialed in. I know guys don't like to give away their secrets on their race boats but I am curious to know besides the heavy packs is everything else stock?
                Hi Raydee,
                Did you receive my reply this morning with all the detail?
                JimV

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                • 2turbofords
                  Member
                  • Dec 2019
                  • 49

                  #143
                  Sweet video, looks like they are dialed in nicely. White boat seems to have a little more speed in the straights?
                  Stiletto 29, Lucas cat, miss Geico 29, motley crew 6s, motley crew 4s, and counting

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                  • jevmax
                    Legend
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 368

                    #144
                    Originally posted by 2turbofords
                    Sweet video, looks like they are dialed in nicely. White boat seems to have a little more speed in the straights?
                    The last time I raced them, the black one seemed faster? I think the way he was driving the white one, he was drifting and carrying speed through the turns. I was running tighter to the buoys, and had to accelerate out of the turn into the straight.

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                    • jevmax
                      Legend
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 368

                      #145
                      Originally posted by ACKopter
                      That was an awesome video, and an awesome location, thanks so much for posting that here. Now for a few questions and probably of most interest is your prop selection and how the electronics handled the almost continuous WOT for the duration of the video, did you make any modifications to the cooling system? Of course everyone here I'm sure would like to know exactly what you did to get the hull so well behaved. Please share.
                      The ESC and motor was about 120F after that run. We used 5000mah of the 9000 available. The lipo packs were at less than 120F.
                      Both of the boats are set-up the same with two exceptions. The black one is using LMT 6mm connectors, and it has a temporary air dam in the tunnel. The white one is using 10mm connectors from OSE.
                      Otherwise, the changes made include:
                      *Thinned and sharpened Prather S225 prop
                      *Twin cooling water tubes and aluminum outlets added
                      *Carbon fiber plates glassed in for the lipos to rest on with Velcro
                      *Struts adjusted slightly negative
                      *Greasing the flexshaft and oiling the motor bearing every two or three runs
                      *Zeee 4S/9000mah lipo packs, all the way forward to the foam
                      *G10 ride pads bonded to the last two sponson ride surfaces

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                      • ACKopter
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2021
                        • 27

                        #146
                        Originally posted by jevmax
                        The ESC and motor was about 120F after that run. We used 5000mah of the 9000 available. The lipo packs were at less than 120F.
                        Both of the boats are set-up the same with two exceptions. The black one is using LMT 6mm connectors, and it has a temporary air dam in the tunnel. The white one is using 10mm connectors from OSE.
                        Otherwise, the changes made include:
                        *Thinned and sharpened Prather S225 prop
                        *Twin cooling water tubes and aluminum outlets added
                        *Carbon fiber plates glassed in for the lipos to rest on with Velcro
                        *Struts adjusted slightly negative
                        *Greasing the flexshaft and oiling the motor bearing every two or three runs
                        *Zeee 4S/9000mah lipo packs, all the way forward to the foam
                        *G10 ride pads bonded to the last two sponson ride surfaces
                        Very informative and extremely helpful, really appreciate you taking the time to supply the info!

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                        • naveda_08
                          Member
                          • May 2021
                          • 67

                          #147
                          Some heavier duty coupler/collets for the BlackJack42, I decided to order some after I saw my buddy strip his out pretty quickly. I have had better luck on my ProBoats with these Zonda style ones. I will stock more if need be

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                          • Raydee
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • May 2007
                            • 1603

                            #148
                            Originally posted by jevmax
                            Hi Raydee,
                            Did you receive my reply this morning with all the detail?
                            JimV
                            Jim, sorry I didn't see a reply. Are you guys really taking the whole strut off the boat in order to grease the cable?? I have watched a ton of vids and it looks like because of the stepped shaft that most guys are removing hardware to get the flex cable greased.....that is insane if that is the case. Once I have the strut set on my boats I rarely change it and having to take it off and get it back to the same spot every time I grease the flex just doesn't sound right.
                            Team Liquid Dash

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                            • ACKopter
                              Junior Member
                              • May 2021
                              • 27

                              #149
                              Originally posted by Raydee
                              Jim, sorry I didn't see a reply. Are you guys really taking the whole strut off the boat in order to grease the cable?? I have watched a ton of vids and it looks like because of the stepped shaft that most guys are removing hardware to get the flex cable greased.....that is insane if that is the case. Once I have the strut set on my boats I rarely change it and having to take it off and get it back to the same spot every time I grease the flex just doesn't sound right.
                              After pulling the entire strut assembly several times to service it I opted to pull the sleeve out of the strut. I removed the entire assembly and heated the strut to loosen the glue they used and pulled the sleeve out of the strut and cleaned all the glue residue off of it. Now its simply loosen the couple collar and pull the shaft out with the sleeve in place. There are a couple vids on you tube on the procedure. I'm not exactly crazy with the outcome though, it seems like the sleeve has a little too much clearance without the glue holding things firmly in place. I am uncertain as this is my first boat so I have no other experience from which to judge. Just some food for thought.

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                              • Raydee
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • May 2007
                                • 1603

                                #150
                                I like the idea of the sleeve holding the flex so that if the cable ever snapped before the step then you would not loose the prop but taking the strut off every time I lube the cable is crazy. I am guessing someone will come up with an aftermarket strut with skeg and even extended back some to possibly help with the hull jumping up and down. Then we can just use the standard speedmaster brass bushing.
                                Team Liquid Dash

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