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  • mikiek
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2017
    • 191

    #76
    oscarel - the part of question 2 regarding throttle travel range got me to look back at the TX instructions. There is a section on setting the travel range. A dumb rookie question but what do they mean by "trigger in full brake position"? Does that mean trigger at rest - i.e. keep your fingers off? OR trigger all the way forward (full reverse)? Never realized you had to program the TX also. I've now gone thru the routine, as best as I understand it. No change.

    Engines seem to be running smoothly. Good even tone. No screeching or random noises. The fact that they don't get hot makes me think they're not getting all the juice they could be.

    That's why I keep calibrating - it just feels like the throttle is holding back. Not delivering all it could.

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    May your batteries never fail you...

    Mike

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    • mikiek
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2017
      • 191

      #77
      fweasel - yes they are both green. Additional note - this afternoon I went back out and did a run with 2 3S per side. Used the series harness. No difference.

      Sounds more and more like I'm not getting all the power to the electronics.
      May your batteries never fail you...

      Mike

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      • zooma
        Local club FE racer
        • May 2014
        • 652

        #78
        full brake would be trigger at rest, where the spring tension leaves it.
        Ron - The Villages, FL

        https://castawaysboatworx.org/

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        • Erroneous
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2016
          • 451

          #79
          I ask about the batteries because its sounds like you are only getting half throttle, ie LVC. If you have followed all of the above steps for calibration and still getting half power try turning LVC off with your program box. Your packs may not be true to ratings. If it comes alive with LVC off then your packs have to go. Dont continue running with no LVC cut off. As for the full brake question during calibration, yes full brake is full reverse. It needs to be told where neutral, full throttle and reverse are. Hang in there once you get it flying the rush will be well worth it.

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          • Prodrvr
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2015
            • 701

            #80
            Originally posted by zooma
            full brake would be trigger at rest, where the spring tension leaves it.
            Full brake is pushing the trigger forward until it stops. Trigger at rest is neutral. I'm just wondering if he's got the throttle channel in his radio reversed and/or throttle epa not at 100%.

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            • Erroneous
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2016
              • 451

              #81
              Originally posted by Prodrvr
              Full brake is pushing the trigger forward until it stops. Trigger at rest is neutral. I'm just wondering if he's got the throttle channel in his radio reversed and/or throttle epa not at 100%.
              Good question as well.

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              • Prodrvr
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2015
                • 701

                #82
                Originally posted by Erroneous
                Good question as well.
                I mention that because a guy on another site just bought a new Zonda twin. He said the boat wouldn't go over like 20 something mph. I told him to check his radio and see if the throttle channel was reversed. It turned out that it was. He recalibrated and still wasn't going fast. I then told him to reverse any two wires on both motors. That was it. I met him at the lake for the first real run of his new boat. That thing moved good for a cheap ARTR!! Mid 50's.

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                • zooma
                  Local club FE racer
                  • May 2014
                  • 652

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Prodrvr
                  Full brake is pushing the trigger forward until it stops. Trigger at rest is neutral. I'm just wondering if he's got the throttle channel in his radio reversed and/or throttle epa not at 100%.
                  I guess so, if the ESC does not have a reversing function.
                  Ron - The Villages, FL

                  https://castawaysboatworx.org/

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                  • oscarel
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 2127

                    #84
                    There's an AVC/ST rate knob that says it controls the steering, can you rotate it both ways and see if it makes a difference in the speed of the motors? The instructions are not very straight forward. Am I reading correctly the default reverse switch for throttle is "R" and pulling the trigger would be forward if it's set to "N"?

                    REVERSE SWITCH
                    Allows you to change the
                    direction of steering (ST. REV) and
                    throttle (TH. REV) controls (default
                    settings are “N” for steering and
                    “R” for throttle).

                    Forward
                    (when TH.
                    REV switch on N).

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                    • oscarel
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 2127

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Prodrvr
                      I mention that because a guy on another site just bought a new Zonda twin. He said the boat wouldn't go over like 20 something mph. I told him to check his radio and see if the throttle channel was reversed. It turned out that it was. He recalibrated and still wasn't going fast. I then told him to reverse any two wires on both motors. That was it. I met him at the lake for the first real run of his new boat. That thing moved good for a cheap ARTR!! Mid 50's.
                      Changing 2 wires would change the direction the motor spins. If it increased speed something else was wrong.

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                      • mikiek
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 191

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Prodrvr
                        Full brake is pushing the trigger forward until it stops. Trigger at rest is neutral. I'm just wondering if he's got the throttle channel in his radio reversed and/or throttle epa not at 100%.
                        Throttle epa? Is that the same as throttle travel adjustment? I was trying to do that but this is where the question about full brake came up. For some reason I can't cut & paste the instructions from the pdf but here is how I read it:

                        1. Hold the trigger at full brake and the steering at full right and power on the TX. Green light should flash - It does.

                        2. Hold trigger at full throttle. Turn trim knob to adjust throttle end point - (what I did) Squeeze trigger, turn knob (clockwise) to full.

                        3. Hold trigger at full brake. Turn trim knob to adjust full brake end point. - (what I did) Push trigger all the way forward, turn knob (ccw) all the way back

                        4. Return knob to middle position.
                        May your batteries never fail you...

                        Mike

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                        • oscarel
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 2127

                          #87
                          Originally posted by mikiek
                          Throttle epa? Is that the same as throttle travel adjustment? I was trying to do that but this is where the question about full brake came up. For some reason I can't cut & paste the instructions from the pdf but here is how I read it:

                          1. Hold the trigger at full brake and the steering at full right and power on the TX. Green light should flash - It does.

                          2. Hold trigger at full throttle. Turn trim knob to adjust throttle end point - (what I did) Squeeze trigger, turn knob (clockwise) to full.

                          3. Hold trigger at full brake. Turn trim knob to adjust full brake end point. - (what I did) Push trigger all the way forward, turn knob (ccw) all the way back

                          4. Return knob to middle position.
                          Pull is foward, push is reverse, finger off is neutral. If you have the transmitter that's shown on page 3 there is not an EPA just neutral trim for steering and throttle. What I'm referring to is on the top right of page 3.

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                          • oscarel
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 2127

                            #88
                            Originally posted by mikiek
                            Throttle epa? Is that the same as throttle travel adjustment? I was trying to do that but this is where the question about full brake came up. For some reason I can't cut & paste the instructions from the pdf but here is how I read it:

                            1. Hold the trigger at full brake and the steering at full right and power on the TX. Green light should flash - It does.

                            2. Hold trigger at full throttle. Turn trim knob to adjust throttle end point - (what I did) Squeeze trigger, turn knob (clockwise) to full.

                            3. Hold trigger at full brake. Turn trim knob to adjust full brake end point. - (what I did) Push trigger all the way forward, turn knob (ccw) all the way back

                            4. Return knob to middle position.
                            The instructions don't say to touch the knob... Put it in the middle and leave it.

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                            • fweasel
                              master of some
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 4288

                              #89
                              Switch your red and black motor wires on the left (port) ESC.
                              Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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                              • oscarel
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 2127

                                #90
                                Originally posted by fweasel
                                Switch your red and black motor wires on the left (port) ESC.
                                Why would he need to do that?

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