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  • Erroneous
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2016
    • 451

    #31
    Im pretty sure the on/off switch just controls the input side of the ESC. The wires on the switch would have to be the same size as your batt cables if they cut the supply side. When you plug in your second battery the spark is the caps/ esc accepting the voltage. In short, anything can happen after the batteries are plugged in.

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    • Erroneous
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2016
      • 451

      #32
      Ive thought about a toggle or switch on batt side but would create more resistance and just another thing to fail.

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      • oscarel
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Dec 2009
        • 2127

        #33
        Mike, where in TX are you? There's a few of us here that may be able to help.

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        • mikiek
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2017
          • 191

          #34
          Took the z-boat out this morning on the water. Almost a success. Fired her up, set her down, pressed go and she takes off in a circle. Rudder is straight. As best I can tell the port prop is not spinning inward. So both are spinning counterclockwise. A crossed connection? If that ESC had only 2 leads to the motor I would have reversed them but there are 3. Can't reverse anything on the transmitter as that would fix the port but make the starboard backwards.

          Surely I am missing something.
          May your batteries never fail you...

          Mike

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          • oscarel
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Dec 2009
            • 2127

            #35
            Originally posted by mikiek
            Took the z-boat out this morning on the water. Almost a success. Fired her up, set her down, pressed go and she takes off in a circle. Rudder is straight. As best I can tell the port prop is not spinning inward. So both are spinning counterclockwise. A crossed connection? If that ESC had only 2 leads to the motor I would have reversed them but there are 3. Can't reverse anything on the transmitter as that would fix the port but make the starboard backwards.

            Surely I am missing something.
            2 of the 3 motor wires switched will change the direction it turns. Also, there is a right and left turn cable so make sure of which you're reversing. Again, where are you located? There's a few clubs in TX I may be able to get you in touch with someone close that may be able to help.

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            • mikiek
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2017
              • 191

              #36
              oscarel - I am near Montgomery on Lake Conroe. Cables and props are good. I have learned a little. I'm not clear what you mean when you say 2 of 3 wires switched. Switch any 2 wires?
              May your batteries never fail you...

              Mike

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              • oscarel
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Dec 2009
                • 2127

                #37
                Originally posted by mikiek
                oscarel - I am near Montgomery on Lake Conroe. Cables and props are good. I have learned a little. I'm not clear what you mean when you say 2 of 3 wires switched. Switch any 2 wires?
                Yes, just swap any 2 wires. There is a clockwise and a counter clockwise cable, spin one the wrong way and it may unwrap and cause damage to the stuffing tube. Jay (Fluid) and the HOTMBC are close in Katy. I believe Jay is just down the highway from you. Get in touch with him and see if he or someone else there can help you.

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                • mikiek
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 191

                  #38
                  Very cool! Thanks for that. Would love to get some time with someone that knows what they are doing Would also be good to have some company.

                  I switched 2 wires and the prop appears to be spinning in the right direction now. Gonna sneak away and put her on the lake for a few minutes.

                  Thanks oscarel
                  May your batteries never fail you...

                  Mike

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                  • oscarel
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 2127

                    #39
                    Originally posted by mikiek
                    Very cool! Thanks for that. Would love to get some time with someone that knows what they are doing Would also be good to have some company.

                    I switched 2 wires and the prop appears to be spinning in the right direction now. Gonna sneak away and put her on the lake for a few minutes.

                    Thanks oscarel
                    Anytime. There's a Memorial weekend race in Crosby if you want to come and check it out. And here's our district 7 (TX/NM) web page.



                    This is a discussion forum that covers all types of radio control model boats. Gasoline two cycles engines primarily are covered but we have sections for electric power and nitro as well. If it moves on the water we have a discussion for it!

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                    • Tamelesstgr
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 1516

                      #40
                      Attached is a diagram I like about cable rotations

                      left_and_right_cable-2.jpg
                      NEVER SATISFIED RACING
                      Fine Design 32 V-Hull 4082+6s

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                      • mikiek
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 191

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Tamelesstgr
                        Attached is a diagram I like about cable rotations
                        OK - If I am understanding this the top assembly goes to the starboard side - bottom is the port side?
                        May your batteries never fail you...

                        Mike

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                        • mikiek
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 191

                          #42
                          AAaahhhh!!! The thread that wouldn't die.....

                          Well this is embarrassing. It appears that both my cables have the same twist Man, what else can the kid do to screw this up What sucks is I replaced both of those with packaged (and labeled) cables. So apparently one of the cables was labeled incorrectly. Lesson learned there.

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                          I suppose that could explain the dreadful performance on the water a few minutes ago? Full throttle and the hull barely got up to plane. I did recalibrate with no improvement. No heat inside but maybe I just got lucky. It was a short run.

                          Well it is time to relube the cables anyway. WHAT"S NEXT???

                          I know I must be coming across as a complete imbecile to everyone - I'm not that stupid
                          May your batteries never fail you...

                          Mike

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                          • Tamelesstgr
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 1516

                            #43
                            That was just meant for you to see the ////////// on the cable and be able to tell which way the cable is supposed to rotate. I don't have a Zelos or any twin powered boats for that matter, someone will chime in on if your Zelos props should spin inward or outward.
                            NEVER SATISFIED RACING
                            Fine Design 32 V-Hull 4082+6s

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                            • Tamelesstgr
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 1516

                              #44
                              Don't give up! It will be all the more rewarding when you get it right. Learning is part of the game, we were all newbies once, and we are all still learning really.
                              NEVER SATISFIED RACING
                              Fine Design 32 V-Hull 4082+6s

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                              • oscarel
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 2127

                                #45
                                Originally posted by mikiek
                                AAaahhhh!!! The thread that wouldn't die.....

                                Well this is embarrassing. It appears that both my cables have the same twist Man, what else can the kid do to screw this up What sucks is I replaced both of those with packaged (and labeled) cables. So apparently one of the cables was labeled incorrectly. Lesson learned there.

                                [ATTACH=CONFIG]151349[/ATTACH]

                                [ATTACH=CONFIG]151350[/ATTACH]

                                I suppose that could explain the dreadful performance on the water a few minutes ago? Full throttle and the hull barely got up to plane. I did recalibrate with no improvement. No heat inside but maybe I just got lucky. It was a short run.

                                Well it is time to relube the cables anyway. WHAT"S NEXT???

                                I know I must be coming across as a complete imbecile to everyone - I'm not that stupid
                                Reference this thread, or search you will find the answer to which direction they should spin. https://forums.offshoreelectrics.com...039#post655039

                                There are full sized boats and also some very fast twin riggers that run same direction.

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