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  • kfxguy
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Oct 2013
    • 8746

    #556
    Originally posted by Erroneous
    Sunlight will wake it right up. Looks like it has a gold undertone. Any opinions on colorshift?

    I'll take some pics in the sun this evening. No gold that I can tell, might be the pics. What do you mean on color shift? Like if you did yours? Be pretty sweet looking with the right color.
    32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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    • kfxguy
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Oct 2013
      • 8746

      #557
      Originally posted by Keagan-Z06
      Ok Thanks for explaining to the slow guy. Appreciated


      I didn't mean it in an ugly tone. You just kept asking the same thing :)
      32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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      • Keagan-Z06
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2016
        • 970

        #558
        Originally posted by kfxguy
        I didn't mean it in an ugly tone. You just kept asking the same thing :)
        I know I'm a pain but I'm pretty new to these things, no knowledge of how they work and it gets frustrating when the boat does one thing and you guys say otherwise. So was trying to clear up all corners. I didn't take it anyway, no worries. With that said I'm still awaiting your response from my last PM
        Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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        • paulfromtulsa
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2013
          • 211

          #559
          Originally posted by kfxguy
          Listen to me. You have two escs, right? Then that means you have a power wire from each one. Then they go into a "y" connector. If one power wire in the y connector isn't clipped then they will feel power into each other. Might not hurt but proper practice it to not back feed them...so you only need power from ONE ESC going into the receiver.
          What essentially could happen if you run both bec wires?

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          • shua
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2015
            • 479

            #560
            The official 36" zelos twin modding thread

            Originally posted by paulfromtulsa
            What essentially could happen if you run both bec wires?
            Not sure on two esc's. But I can tell you that an external bec attached to an esc with an integral bec will burn up either the esc or the external bec.

            I have discovered this the hard way.

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            • Keagan-Z06
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2016
              • 970

              #561
              Originally posted by paulfromtulsa
              What essentially could happen if you run both bec wires?
              Not sure I wanna find out.
              Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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              • kfxguy
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Oct 2013
                • 8746

                #562
                Originally posted by paulfromtulsa
                What essentially could happen if you run both bec wires?
                I don't have an answer because I've never tried it. I just know that no one runs them connected because the possibility of back feeding could occur and cause damage. That's why the wire is disconnected from the factory.
                32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                • Erroneous
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 451

                  #563
                  Originally posted by kfxguy
                  I'll take some pics in the sun this evening. No gold that I can tell, might be the pics. What do you mean on color shift? Like if you did yours? Be pretty sweet looking with the right color.
                  image.jpeg Something like this from house of kolors. Or more blue to green. Can't decide yet. Matte white on matte black is still an option too. These are the decisions I have a hard time with.

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                  • kfxguy
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 8746

                    #564
                    I like bright colors myself so you can see it. The orange looks really good from house of color.


                    32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                    • Rafael_Lopez
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 470

                      #565
                      Guys, were giving advice here without knowing, or fully understanding how the boat is set up; regarding the ESC's red wires. The Y harness included with the boats has one of the red wires clipped, which is why the ESCs work as a master and a slave. I thought this through when I developed the boat, this isn't my first rodeo. If you notice, there is heat shrink where the Y harness becomes 1. That is where 1 red wire is clipped. You can not have redundant BECs and expect to not burn up one of them. Look at the boat's parts listing. There is a reason for the wire harness listed. It's specific to making the ESCs work together safely.

                      If the red wire is clipped of one or the other ESC, repair it. It's obvious your ESC isn't working otherwise.
                      Rafael Lopez
                      Product Developer-Pro Boat
                      My Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010183246751

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                      • Team Lucas
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2016
                        • 300

                        #566
                        Im not new to rc boat racing, but am new to electric boats, and got on this thread hoping to get insight to this boat. I have learned some by reading every post before asking questions, and some I ask are answered by common responses, such as " has anyone needed to adjust strut in order to get the recorded speeds" answer was "depends on wind etc..." I already knew that, not being new to rc boat racing. I understand that to some it may seam like stupid questions, but I thought it was about helping "old and new guys" understand how to set up this certain boat. Please no one take this as if I don't appreciate the responses.
                        Zelos 36 stock 68 mph

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                        • Team Lucas
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2016
                          • 300

                          #567
                          new x447's

                          one more to go
                          Zelos 36 stock 68 mph

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                          • Keagan-Z06
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2016
                            • 970

                            #568
                            Originally posted by Team Lucas
                            one more to go
                            I would love to see how yours does. Ive been struggling with mine but thats because my Zelos water intake might have been harassing the electronics, that coupled with some low cell batteries.
                            Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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                            • Rafael_Lopez
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 470

                              #569
                              Team Lucas, if you didn't receive a precise answer it's probably because no one has adjusted their struts other than Travis who has experimented with props with higher rake, and myself, to run the 3 blase 1816 props which also have a more aggressive rake; which we both have posted about doing so. Most people running props with less than 10* of rake should be able to adjust the boat's CG with battery placement. It's easier to move the batteries to adjust CG than to set strut angle. My boat doesn't run the stock motors and with the props I'm running I could not get enough forward CG to keep the boat from flipping backwards. I don't think that anyone didn't want to answer your question, but strut angle really does have a lot of variables that can change by the minute. The odds of you running the same packs, wind conditions, and water conditions than anyone else on this forum are probably 0. Water density also comes in to play; the mineral content of the water can make the water "heavy" or "thick" which will effect the way your boat needs to be set up.

                              Like with anything else motor driven where performance tuning is necessary, no two will be the same. I really doubt every race car, for whatever type of car racing, runs the same setup as the next. It may be close, but each driver drives different and responds different to feedback from what they're driving.
                              Rafael Lopez
                              Product Developer-Pro Boat
                              My Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010183246751

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                              • Keagan-Z06
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2016
                                • 970

                                #570
                                Originally posted by Rafael_Lopez
                                Guys, were giving advice here without knowing, or fully understanding how the boat is set up; regarding the ESC's red wires. The Y harness included with the boats has one of the red wires clipped, which is why the ESCs work as a master and a slave. I thought this through when I developed the boat, this isn't my first rodeo. If you notice, there is heat shrink where the Y harness becomes 1. That is where 1 red wire is clipped. You can not have redundant BECs and expect to not burn up one of them. Look at the boat's parts listing. There is a reason for the wire harness listed. It's specific to making the ESCs work together safely.

                                If the red wire is clipped of one or the other ESC, repair it. It's obvious your ESC isn't working otherwise.
                                Thanks for chiming in on my issue Rafael, my wire as depicted in the picture above is clipped from the Y heading towards the Receiver.
                                Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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