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  • TRUCKPULL
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 2971

    #1501
    Maybe he finally got some jail time for this move.



    Larry
    Past NAMBA- P Mono -1 Mile Race Record holder
    Past NAMBA- P Sport -1 Mile Race Record holder
    Bump & Grind Racing Props -We Like Em Smooth & Wet

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    • Team Lucas
      Senior Member
      • May 2016
      • 300

      #1502
      what comes around goes around
      Zelos 36 stock 68 mph

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      • Team Lucas
        Senior Member
        • May 2016
        • 300

        #1503
        I set up the Zelos different, if the wind calms down i'll go out this Sunday. I haven't seen anyone set it up this way on here. Not going for a record, but shooting for 70+. Still using stock electronics.
        Zelos 36 stock 68 mph

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        • Team Lucas
          Senior Member
          • May 2016
          • 300

          #1504
          outward spin lifts transom up.riding props.jpg
          Zelos 36 stock 68 mph

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          • Banzee
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 186

            #1505
            Originally posted by Team Lucas
            outward spin lifts transom up.[ATTACH=CONFIG]147264[/ATTACH]
            Outward lift the bow ,not the transom ? The inward rotation lift the transom ! I think !

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            • Team Lucas
              Senior Member
              • May 2016
              • 300

              #1506
              Originally posted by Banzee
              Outward lift the bow ,not the transom ? The inward rotation lift the transom ! I think !
              I believe someone said in past posts that Rafael designed it inward spinning because it handles better (keeps the transom in the water). Outward spinning lifts the transom, but also makes it want to "float". It got rid of the porpose effect on mine.
              Zelos 36 stock 68 mph

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              • Banzee
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 186

                #1507
                Hum okay , i just understand the wrong way ! I tryied outward one time , but didn't notice change because water was too choppy !!

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                • Keagan-Z06
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 970

                  #1508
                  Anyone tried 3 blade props? I know they pull more amps but just wondering?
                  Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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                  • fweasel
                    master of some
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 4281

                    #1509
                    I believe Rafael was running 3 blade props with the 1750 Impulse 31 motors.
                    Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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                    • Team Lucas
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2016
                      • 300

                      #1510
                      Originally posted by Keagan-Z06
                      Anyone tried 3 blade props? I know they pull more amps but just wondering?
                      What ones were you thinking on running? page 49 post 1445
                      Last edited by Team Lucas; 11-01-2016, 02:14 PM. Reason: old
                      Zelos 36 stock 68 mph

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                      • Keagan-Z06
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 970

                        #1511
                        Originally posted by Team Lucas
                        What ones were you thinking on running? page 49 post 1445
                        I don't really wanna run them because I've yet to actually get what I want from those x447s. Was just wondering for future reference how anyone did with them. Thanks man!
                        Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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                        • Rafael_Lopez
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 470

                          #1512
                          Hey Guys, Sorry for not having time to get on here lately.

                          Regarding my SAW boat in the video Keagan posted, that was the very first run with that Voracity 36 motors and Zelos 48 ESCs. It was on 8s, 2p. Boat ran very wet. I never tuned it, I just half assed guessed where to place everything and went for it; I built the boat the previous day. I haven't run it since that day, I am waiting of components to come in to try and get more speed. This was just a test to see how stable the hull is with more speed. I really feel the hull can handle 100, no problem. Lipos are not HV, they are 5700mAh 14.8v samples I get for free; true 35C rated packs with a 50C burst. When you have quality packs, you don't need "100C" packs. Each side has an extra water pick up. Electronics were at 110 after that video. I'm running ABC 1816/3 .50 bar that I've tweaked a little. I didn't run the 447 props but I believe with some hull tuning and these props, I can get closer to 90.

                          The goal for the NAMBA event in a few weeks is 100. The Q record is close to 130, which I know I wont get to unless I spend $1K on electronics, which I am not willing to do. I'm just doing it for fun, with samples that I get for free to prove the hull can be competitive
                          Rafael Lopez
                          Product Developer-Pro Boat
                          My Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010183246751

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                          • Erroneous
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 451

                            #1513
                            Good stuff. But again, looks like I have work to do. Thanks buddy.

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                            • Team Lucas
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2016
                              • 300

                              #1514
                              if the boat is running wet, wonder if he will try reversing props to outward. If he hasn't tried already.
                              Zelos 36 stock 68 mph

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                              • Rafael_Lopez
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 470

                                #1515
                                The boat is running wet because the batteries are too far forward; it has nothing to do with the rotation of the props. Back when I built my first Zelos 36 from a bare hull, I discovered that running them inward, like most 1:1 twin cats do, provided the best characteristics for all purpose running. I didn't like the way this boat handles running the outward. I see what you guys are saying here in theory, but it hasn't worked that way for me. Prop wise, the only way to get lift, either transom or bow, is with prop rake. Other than that, you either use your struts or batteries to adjust ride attitude. I'm not saying you may not experience different, but this is what I have found works on this boat.
                                Rafael Lopez
                                Product Developer-Pro Boat
                                My Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010183246751

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