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  • Rafael_Lopez
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 470

    #121
    The best I can advise is to check the motor alignment. If the Teflon is worn now and there is no longer friction where there used to be, the issue is definitely alignment.

    Because it sounds like your boat came this way, call our Product Support line and have them send you anther flex shaft with liner. Unfortunately they come in a pair, but I'm sure you wont mind having an extra flex shaft.

    Once you install the new liner, make sure to align the motor properly. Please let me know if the misalignment is in the stuffing tube, which would prevent you from possibly aligning the drive line via the motor mount. Pictures help, so if you find this to be the case, post some pictures of the issue.
    Rafael Lopez
    Product Developer-Pro Boat
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    • Xtremespeed
      Member
      • Feb 2016
      • 52

      #122
      Thank you very much for the reply. I wish I would have taken pictures when it happened, but at least it does sound like I'm on the right track. There was no longer any liner showing and the flex shaft was against the tube. I first aligned the motor to see if the shaft would center in the tube which it did. Then I removed the shaft to find only small pieces of liner, some which seemed to be melted to the shaft. The tube is now hogged out slightly from the shaft rubbing against it at the motor end. It bothers me a little that there were no signs of a problem and the boat seemed to be running great. I'd hate to damage it by running it too long with an issue like this. Thankfully I shut it down at about 3.85v a cell. Had I ran it much longer I'm afraid to guess how bad the damage may have been. There was a lot of smoke and the sealant around the stuffing tube is golden brown from the heat. I will call the product support line today and see what they can do. Thanks again.

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      • Rafael_Lopez
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2015
        • 470

        #123
        The best I can advise is to check the motor alignment. If the Teflon is worn now and there is no longer friction where there used to be, the issue is definitely alignment.

        Because it sounds like your boat came this way, call our Product Support line and have them send you anther flex shaft with liner. Unfortunately they come in a pair, but I'm sure you wont mind having an extra flex shaft.

        Once you install the new liner, make sure to align the motor properly. Please let me know if the misalignment is in the stuffing tube, which would prevent you from possibly aligning the drive line via the motor mount. Pictures help, so if you find this to be the case, post some pictures of the issue.
        Rafael Lopez
        Product Developer-Pro Boat
        My Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010183246751

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        • Xtremespeed
          Member
          • Feb 2016
          • 52

          #124
          Small update. I talked to Bill in product support and he is sending me a new flex shaft and liner. He was a pleasure to deal with. Excellent support. Hopefully this will get me going. I'm going to have to figure out a way to clean the inside of the tube to remove any remnants of the melted liner.

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          • 98Corvette
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 10

            #125
            Problems running 7s
            I was wondering if anyone here can help me out. I have decided to run a 7s setup in my Zelos 48". As the manual states, there is an auto-detect for the amount of cells and it states that it should have 7 short beeps followed by a longer beep. I did a test with a 3s and got 3 beeps, 4s and got 4 beeps, 6s and got 6, 8s and got 8 beeps, BUT,,, when I did 7s I am getting 8 beeps.
            If there is anyone on here with a Zelos 48 and if you have the capabilities of hooking up a 7s setup (4s+3s in series) or (5s+2s in series) laying around, would you mind hooking it up to see if you get 7 short quick beeps then the longer beep and green light.... Thanks in advance.

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            • Xtremespeed
              Member
              • Feb 2016
              • 52

              #126
              Just tried it on mine. It is the same. I get 8 short beeps followed by one long beep just like I do when running 8s.

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              • Rafael_Lopez
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2015
                • 470

                #127
                Hey guys, sorry for the delay on this info regarding the ESC on 7s.

                The manufacture specs say the ESC will work between 4-8s, but they don't consider 7s a common option so they did not include it in the ESCs programming.

                We need to update the information for this ESC, but unfortunately it won't work with 7s.
                Rafael Lopez
                Product Developer-Pro Boat
                My Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010183246751

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                • Xtremespeed
                  Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 52

                  #128
                  Thanks for info Rafael.

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                  • IRON-PAWW
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 314

                    #129
                    So the Australian Proboat Importer has issued me with a replacement hull. They agree that the incorrectly bent stuffing tube is a clear defect that warrants a replacement. It is currently sitting with my local hobby store. With work it'll be the weekend before I get my hands on it. Exactly what they've sent remains to be seen. What hardware did I get with it? Hatch? Electronics? I assume though that it will pretty much be a bare hull. Watch this space. It's good though that they came through in full agreeance on this. I admit I didn't know what their response would be.

                    So I think if your stuffing tube is bent this way out of the box - you should be able to get your hull replaced as well. Though it appears so far that I'm the single lucky person who's had this defect.

                    You can see the stuffing tube has no curve whatsoever. Rather - just a single nasty bend half way along. You can even see in the third pic the way the tube has begun to crimp underneath.

                    Once the new hull is up and running - I'll post some speed results to see what sort of difference this makes.









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                    • Xtremespeed
                      Member
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 52

                      #130
                      Glad to see they are replacing it for you. I'm still waiting on a flex shaft and liner to fix mine but so far the support has been great.

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                      • Rafael_Lopez
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 470

                        #131
                        They are replacing the bare hull, which includes only what is glued down to it. The only aluminum parts included are the antenna tube an the thumb screw bases. You are not getting a canopy because that is sold separately.

                        You will have to disassemble everything screwed down to your hull and transfer it to the new one.

                        The bare hull is pictured here, so you can reference what is included.
                        Rafael Lopez
                        Product Developer-Pro Boat
                        My Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010183246751

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                        • IRON-PAWW
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 314

                          #132
                          OK thanks Rafael. That's what I thought would happen. Hobby store was a little light on the details. So basically just the bare hull with stuffing tube in place? Can't see underneath in the link - But I assume I will need to pull the strut off the old hull too? Just so I know and can get busy with stripping the old hull before picking up the new.
                          PERTH AUSTRALIA
                          || 2 x SV 27R || Impulse 31 - ver1 || Traxxas Spartan || Kintec Pursuit || Zonda Cat 41" || Insane FE30 || OuterLimits 870mm || TFL Ariane 36" || ProBoat Zelos 48 ||

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                          • Rafael_Lopez
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 470

                            #133
                            Yes, nothing else bolted on other than the antenna tube and thumb screw bases are included. The inside tray unscrews, so you can remove the entire thing without a need to remove the motor, servo, and ESC. The battery trays and electronics tray rails come glued in place.
                            Rafael Lopez
                            Product Developer-Pro Boat
                            My Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010183246751

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                            • Xtremespeed
                              Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 52

                              #134
                              Got my new flex shaft and liner yesterday. The new one is a little longer than the original, so when I cut it, how much space should I leave between the strut and the drive dog with the shaft fully seated in the collet? 3-4mm?

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                              • Rafael_Lopez
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 470

                                #135
                                Leave enough space for the teflon washers plus an additional 2.5-3mm to allow for shrinking under load. I don't have one here to measure the thickness of the teflon washers. If you choose not to run the washers then at least 3mm.

                                I'll find out why these are coming longer than specified.
                                Rafael Lopez
                                Product Developer-Pro Boat
                                My Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010183246751

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