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  • Steven Vaccaro
    Administrator
    • Apr 2007
    • 8723

    #31
    Originally posted by sjslhill
    I am amazed at all this so called perfect technology that is low cost because it runs for years and years, that's what I read and then I see thread after threads all over about burned up controls. So, what's up with that?
    Oh, I'm ready to go backwards......

    Sure I'm ready to give up brushless motors for 200 watt $100 mod 540 brushed motors that needed rebuilding after 4 runs, Com lathes, replacing brushes on a regular basis.
    Steven Vaccaro

    Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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    • Brod
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 196

      #32
      The problem with the plugin burns is there isnt much left to disect apart from a mass of charcoal.
      It has to be faulty components or faulty workmanship.Just no proof of elther.

      Every time i take the lid of my boats after a run i always have a quick sniff inside for the classic smell,fear of the worst..
      Brod..
      Slow gets boring fast.

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      • domwilson
        Moderator
        • Apr 2007
        • 4408

        #33
        Well...I'm all for a warp core in my boats.Now that would be FE!
        Government Moto:
        "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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        • Flying Scotsman
          Fast Electric Adict!
          • Jun 2007
          • 5190

          #34
          The point is I have used Turnigy HV and Castle LV controllers with no problems, I presume for the bizarre reason as I and I think Steven Vicaro and others do not believe all the specs especialy when the equipment is at the limits. ESC's are basically a fuse. I always run a conservative setup and I may not be the top dog at the pond but my wallet thanks me. Racers are another matter and I truly respect what they do to develop the sport and pushing the envelope. Always learning from their knowledge and experience and believe me the smell of a burnt ESC is not great for the nostrils or your house

          Douggie

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          • sjslhill
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 1513

            #35
            Say what?

            Did I say that?

            I am just wondering why everything is failing?

            Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
            Oh, I'm ready to go backwards......

            Sure I'm ready to give up brushless motors for 200 watt $100 mod 540 brushed motors that needed rebuilding after 4 runs, Com lathes, replacing brushes on a regular basis.

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            • raptor347
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Jul 2007
              • 1089

              #36
              I've certainly cooked my fair share of ESCs (both brushless and brushed). I've had a few burn down on power up and a few where the software wasn't all it was supposed to be. If I'm truely honest about it, most have given their all while I pushed the limit of the equipment.

              I know where the limits are and I have great luck as long as I stay within those limits. I'm having a great time with the spec stuff at the moment, and I haven't killed a motor or ESC yet (knocking on a very large wooden table). The spec riggers are running up over 60, spec tunnels are running 50-52, same goes for sport boats all in heat race trim.

              Unfortunately you just have to pick your poison (esc brand) and go with it. They all have good and bad points. I wish there was a good answer to the plug and puff, but they all seem to do it once in a while.

              I promise one thing, I'll never own another com lathe. I am thinking of a nitro boat
              Brian "Snowman" Buaas
              Team Castle Creations
              NAMBA FE Chairman

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              • sjslhill
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 1513

                #37
                You know, I get sick of the I'm not going back to NIMH and 05 or 540 motors, yada yada yada.

                I don't have any NIMH cells or packs, I have some 05's and some Hughey gearboxes and they will run fast. Most never knew how to run them to begin with, I never turned coms after 3 or 4 runs.

                I don't expect people to run those but I get sick of all the glory statements about how great everything is and I see forum threads of burned up motors, controllers and puffed Lipoly packs. Someone makes a comment about it and here comes a bunch of I have ran my controller for 5 years, yada, yada, yada. Oh sure you have, the stuff changes every 6 months.

                I am going to get away from here for now and report back on my simple fun project I am doing latter.

                Cya all latter.

                Steve

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                • kevinlew211
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 586

                  #38
                  [QUOTE=sailr;111827]No, but I watched TWO $600 Schulze's smoke on plug-in and even more Castle's.

                  can you tell me more about Schulze esc burned by plug-in.

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                  • RPC1
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 112

                    #39
                    I over propped my Seaking 120 and it didn't go up in smoke. It just ran at reduced power till it cooled down. I did submerge one for a few minutes and tried it before letting it dry out. It didn't work, but it didn't turn into charcoal either. Been a good purchase for me.

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                    • ozzie-crawl
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 2865

                      #40
                      i personaly have had great success with the himodel 200a,only time i have killed them is water

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                      • Doug Smock
                        Moderator
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 5272

                        #41
                        Originally posted by sjslhill
                        I am going to get away from here for now and report back on my simple fun project I am doing latter.

                        Cya all latter.

                        Steve
                        MODEL BOAT RACER
                        IMPBA President
                        District 13 Director 2011- present
                        IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
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                        • Punisher 67
                          Ignore list member #67
                          • May 2008
                          • 1480

                          #42
                          Originally posted by sailr
                          No, but I watched TWO $600 Schulze's smoke on plug-in and even more Castle's.

                          If I'm going to buy a smoke container, I'd rather do it at the price for a himodel or turnigy. Seems they are all prone to failure at some point.
                          Hello Jim

                          I am kind of curious myself , I have 4 x 40/160's and have yet to see a controler take a beating like these can and still come back just warm
                          Necessity is the mother of invention.............

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                          • Doug Smock
                            Moderator
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 5272

                            #43
                            I too love my 40.160s They are, without a doubt, the anvil of speed controls!!
                            Last edited by Doug Smock; 08-02-2009, 08:38 AM.
                            MODEL BOAT RACER
                            IMPBA President
                            District 13 Director 2011- present
                            IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
                            IMPBA 19887L CD
                            NAMBA 1169

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                            • sailr
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 6927

                              #44
                              Peter and Doug, don't get me wrong! My only point is that no ESC's are perfect. They are all prone to failure...even the most expensive. The two high dollar Schulze's I watched smoke were simply on plug-in, not during a run and by a very experienced SAW racer. I'm not saying the Schulze is a bad controller. On the contrary, they are certainly among the best. I happen to have an 80A one that one day just decided it wasn't going to work anymore. No smoke, no nothin, no beeps, etc. BUT, the same can happen with all of the other brands. My final point is that if I'm going to have trouble even with the most expensive, why not have the same trouble with the least expensive! I can replace the less expensive controller several time for the what the Schulze cost
                              Mini Cat Racing USA
                              www.minicatracingusa.com

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                              • Flying Scotsman
                                Fast Electric Adict!
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 5190

                                #45
                                I would love to hear from any ESC manufacturer's technical department as to the possible causes of boom on plug in, especially on a new controller and is this a problem related to high voltage setups....6S on a max 6S rated ESC......13S on a max rated 13S ESC?

                                Douggie

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