pursuit or revolt? different levels of pursuit ,help !!

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  • boatsrnew2me
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2016
    • 476

    #31
    well i couldn't get on board with the voracity and the issues it is having . that whole thing turned me off to fiberglass .
    that said i bought a spartan . got a good deal on a new in box so went for it .

    i may revisit the voracity come spring and see if revisions have been made ,it is a beautiful boat . not sure i will even get to run the spartan this year but i will have it for spring thaw .
    volantex vector pro ,proboat veles 29 , traxxas spartan, hobbyking/tfl pursuit ,ft009 with rescue rigging

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    • SD Eracer
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2014
      • 262

      #32
      I've had 3 Revolt 30s of various level of modifications and currently a Pursuit. For me, it's the Pursuit hands down all day long.

      The Revolt is a nice little racer, sleek and low on the water line. Also makes it harder to see and the boat's smaller size makes it less stable for larger motors if that becomes your thing. The Pursuit has a perfect hull for all-around running, rides tall in the water, much easier to see and enjoy and works perfect for 40mm cans.

      My previous setup was a Turnigy 180a ESC, Leopard 4082 1600kv on 6S, 3/16 single shaft running a Octura X642 prop. This setup is good for a consistent 60 mph top speed, solid and easy on the drivetrain. I've recently upgraded to a SSS 4082 2000kv motor on 6S, speeds are up to 67 mph plus.

      If you go with a Revolt 30, a nice setup is a 180a ESC, Leopard 3674 2200kv on 5S, Kintec shaft and Octura X642 prop. Probably about 70 mph with this setup.

      Either way you go, you MUST reinforce the hull. From tip to tail and don't forget to do the canopy. Even in stock speeds, the Revolt 30 should be reinforced especially at the motor mount. Overtime, the wood motor mounts will slowly crack the bottom of the hull due to flex.

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      • Revolt Flash
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2015
        • 437

        #33
        The Revolt is a good boat right out the box to run in the mid 40's with few upgrades needed. Change out the flex cable, coupler and prop. With regular maintenace you can beat on it all day long with great results.

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        • NativePaul
          Greased Weasel
          • Feb 2008
          • 2760

          #34
          The Pursuit or Revolt question has been solved, the answer is Spartan.
          Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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          • T.S.Davis
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Oct 2009
            • 6220

            #35
            hahaha Paul, is that cuz it's plastic?
            Noisy person

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            • Newboater
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2016
              • 359

              #36
              Originally posted by NativePaul
              The Pursuit or Revolt question has been solved, the answer is Spartan.
              Well it is solved for the OP anyway

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              • boatsrnew2me
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2016
                • 476

                #37
                Originally posted by T.S.Davis
                hahaha Paul, is that cuz it's plastic?
                actually yes thats one the reasons . i had considered either a pursuit , a impulse and even the voracity ,but after seeing cracked transom`s , split sides, and broken hatch pin locations i decided to go for the spartan . i know seasoned boaters wont approve but given my experience its whats right for me right now.
                i do like the voracity, very nice looking boat and may revisit it if they improve the f/g on it .

                i also passed on the impulse after seeing some broken hatch pin locations .

                i do own a proboat ...a recoil....and yes its abs .its my first boat and the spartan my second . come spring i will probably be getting a f/g boat ,either a voracity(if they improve the f/g work) or a pursuit .
                volantex vector pro ,proboat veles 29 , traxxas spartan, hobbyking/tfl pursuit ,ft009 with rescue rigging

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                • SD Eracer
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 262

                  #38
                  A Spartan, I have one of those as well, it's the worse boat I've ever owned, but that's because of how I like to run, which here on the West coast is pretty much modified to near SAW boat levels in a mono form.

                  If you run it nearly stock or how Traxxas meant it to be run, it's a great boat, large and sexy high above the water line.

                  I can actually understand the advantages of ABS plastic over fiberglass, which tends to bend but not crack (unless hit directly by an object). Every part is easy to buy and replace, everything is modular as well. Except for the terrible hatch design, it's a solid boat. I would actually run mine if there was a good way to tape it up and avoid it leaking when upside down after a 70 mph flip.

                  Don't let the fear of cracks and splits prevent you from moving up in the future. Fiberglass and carbon hulls at higher speeds are superior to anything you can do with a Spartan. My reinforced HPR is practically bullet proof, I can run it over with my F150 and throw it back in the water with no problems, probably

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                  • boatsrnew2me
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2016
                    • 476

                    #39
                    Originally posted by SD Eracer

                    If you run it nearly stock or how Traxxas meant it to be run, it's a great boat, large and sexy high above the water line.

                    I can actually understand the advantages of ABS plastic over fiberglass, which tends to bend but not crack (unless hit directly by an object). Every part is easy to buy and replace, everything is modular as well. Except for the terrible hatch design, it's a solid boat.

                    Don't let the fear of cracks and splits prevent you from moving up in the future. :
                    yes i wont be going much over stock form more then likely . maybe a prop upgrade down the line . some of the things you touched on are why i went with a abs boat . i will probably try a f/g boat come spring . will have to see whats available at that time .i know proboat has something in the works for a 2017 release .
                    volantex vector pro ,proboat veles 29 , traxxas spartan, hobbyking/tfl pursuit ,ft009 with rescue rigging

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                    • T.S.Davis
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6220

                      #40
                      I couldn't drive the Spartan for long. If you've driven a lot of boats you can actually feel it flexing as the power is applied. Hard to describe. It's the way it behaves under acceleration.

                      Glass is so much stronger and impact resistant than ABS that it's difficult to even imagine comparing them. It's apples to cinder blocks in my opinion.

                      If you searched for problems with glass boats you would find them sure. Especially with the name brand RTR's If you looked for problems with ABS boats you likely wont find many because nobody that is really into boats buys them and reports on them. Usually the ABS buyers are not boat guy nut jobs. No offense to the OP or my fellow nut jobs.

                      I love the lines on the Voracity and the Impulse but they are not the same animal as a Pursuit. I've never broken a Pursuit open. I've had collisions. Even a couple explosions but no damage. Lost a carbon fiber Pursuit to the bottom of the pond but that's because I'm a lunatic.
                      Noisy person

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                      • Newboater
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 359

                        #41
                        Originally posted by boatsrnew2me
                        actually yes thats one the reasons . i had considered either a pursuit , a impulse and even the voracity ,but after seeing cracked transom`s , split sides, and broken hatch pin locations i decided to go for the spartan . i know seasoned boaters wont approve but given my experience its whats right for me right now.
                        i do like the voracity, very nice looking boat and may revisit it if they improve the f/g on it .

                        i also passed on the impulse after seeing some broken hatch pin locations .

                        i do own a proboat ...a recoil....and yes its abs .its my first boat and the spartan my second . come spring i will probably be getting a f/g boat ,either a voracity(if they improve the f/g work) or a pursuit .
                        the Impulse transom is reinforced with plastic inlay. As far as the pin issue goes super easy fix. Remove pins from canopy add 2 ounce cloth to canopy to strengthen then install longer pins into the deck. Underneath the deck there is a large triangular glass section my pins are installed into that. Let's be honest any boat you buy is going to need some type of work to it.
                        Pic of pins
                        Here is a pick of pin location
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                        • T.S.Davis
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6220

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Newboater
                          Let's be honest any boat you buy is going to need some type of work to it.
                          That's super true. Even guys that spend extra dough for the "race" ready boat have to work to get the most out of it. We're not buying from Ferrari here. haha
                          Noisy person

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                          • Revolt Flash
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 437

                            #43
                            So true. Spartan will need a flex cable, strut, prop and dual water intake rudder.

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                            • boatsrnew2me
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2016
                              • 476

                              #44
                              just sold a rc truggy . on a boat hunt again . revisiting either a impulse or pursuit again . local hobbytown going out of business here . might get deep discount on a impulse . we will see .
                              volantex vector pro ,proboat veles 29 , traxxas spartan, hobbyking/tfl pursuit ,ft009 with rescue rigging

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                              • tebby2
                                Member
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 46

                                #45
                                Quite correct. My HK Pursuit right out the box with original SSS 3660 motor and original prop, goes 31 - 32 mph on 3S. Not bad for less that $400, which includes my out of pocket costs for a 120 amp SeaKing ESC, a Savox servo and 5300 mAh Glacier 11.1 Volt Lipo.

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