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  • MarkF
    dinogylipos.com
    • Mar 2008
    • 979

    #46
    Bigum

    The connectors from esc to batteries see more amps than the ones between motor and esc. So if your melting the shrink from motor to esc then you probably have a cold solder joint. I am very good at soldering myself but sometimes I get a cold joint and don't know it until I run the boat. Your set up sounds reasonable for a rigger but your packs are going to be the week link. Buy some better packs. Also soldering esc direct to motor is a good way to go.

    Mark

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    • photohoward1
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Mar 2009
      • 1610

      #47
      Oops!

      Originally posted by kfxguy
      2390kv x 14.8v= 35,372rpm......am i missing something? He's running 4s, not 6s. I still agree that almost a 10k rpm drop loaded is not good. But what do i know?

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      • kfxguy
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Oct 2013
        • 8746

        #48
        Originally posted by photohoward1
        Oops!
        Lol! It happens!
        32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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        • kevinpratt823
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Aug 2012
          • 1361

          #49
          Originally posted by MarkF
          Bigum

          The connectors from esc to batteries see more amps than the ones between motor and esc. So if your melting the shrink from motor to esc then you probably have a cold solder joint. I am very good at soldering myself but sometimes I get a cold joint and don't know it until I run the boat. Your set up sounds reasonable for a rigger but your packs are going to be the week link. Buy some better packs. Also soldering esc direct to motor is a good way to go.

          Mark
          I'm not sure I agree 100% here, in every boat I have the motor bullets seem to get considerably hotter than batt bullets.
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          • MarkF
            dinogylipos.com
            • Mar 2008
            • 979

            #50
            Good point Kevin

            That's because your hot motor is getting the bullets hot. Not because the motor draws more amps from there. This is one reason we use to solder our esc to motor. Adding bigger bullets is just a band aide on a bad set up. The bullets between battery and esc see more amps. My motor bullets don't get hot unless something like a bad solder joint happens or my motor is going bad and gets real hot. A bad set up like running to big a prop for to long will do this but I don't think his set up is bad for a rigger. I have melted plenty of shrink on my battery bullets but very rare on my motor bullets. And I don't run mild set ups:)

            Mark

            Mark

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            • kevinpratt823
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Aug 2012
              • 1361

              #51
              I would think the higher temps on motor bullets also has something to do with the rapid pulses and changes in polarity the esc puts through the motor wires, also I thought they actually peak higher than the more steady draw from the batts, which is evened out a bit by capacitors.

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              • Bigum
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 23

                #52
                Originally posted by MarkF
                Bigum

                The connectors from esc to batteries see more amps than the ones between motor and esc. So if your melting the shrink from motor to esc then you probably have a cold solder joint. I am very good at soldering myself but sometimes I get a cold joint and don't know it until I run the boat. Your set up sounds reasonable for a rigger but your packs are going to be the week link. Buy some better packs. Also soldering esc direct to motor is a good way to go.

                Mark
                Thanks Mark yeah it looks like the batteries isn't so happy With that current, must be a upgrade, Was also thinking soldering esc direct to motor seam like god idea

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                • jkr
                  FE Addiction
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 568

                  #53
                  Soldering the wires direct to the motor is the best you can do for start.

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                  • kevinpratt823
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 1361

                    #54
                    Originally posted by jkr
                    Soldering the wires direct to the motor is the best you can do for start.
                    How exactly are you guys going about this, especially if the motor leads are part of the windings? Just stack together and solder?

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                    • jkr
                      FE Addiction
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 568

                      #55
                      Originally posted by kevinpratt823
                      How exactly are you guys going about this, especially if the motor leads are part of the windings? Just stack together and solder?

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                      Yes
                      I solder the wires of the esc directly on the motor wires and if i have the space i may also solder them direct on the pcb.

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                      • montymike
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 774

                        #56
                        Get rid of those zippy batts...get revoletric batteries zippys have screwed up more then 1 of my escs they are ok
                        On small setups but there c reading is misleading.Ditch the zippys...

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