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  • rockwerks
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 772

    #31
    Originally posted by Jeff Wohlt

    I did not take it as an insult from Steve if you have $500 ESCs in his post anyway. I think the point here was testing cheapo motor and report back.

    In reality, the motor is cheap. Sure it will work but these are poorly balanced, cheap wire, and cheap everything else....hey but they have a neat cooling jacket! For smaller rigs this may be an option on 3S max. Small prop, etc.

    It is no motor for 4S and 1/12 scale hydros or larger monos. They run hot for a reason...cheap components and very crap magnets. Effiec # are probably a lie as well.
    That is what I like to see Open minded optimism.

    In other RC venues some have had great luck with less expensive motors, and the fact is the more options we have the better
    an RC rock crawler lost in a sea of boat parts.........

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    • Doozie870
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 828

      #32
      are hxt and turnigy the same, the pic shows a purple one mine is gold?

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      • ghostofpf1
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 392

        #33
        Originally posted by Doozie870
        are hxt and turnigy the same, the pic shows a purple one mine is gold?
        Same motor different day...

        ghost

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        • Jeff Wohlt
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Jan 2008
          • 2716

          #34
          My point is I did not take what Steve said about the high dollar stuff as an attack. Darin did and through insult with that post to Steve.

          Don't get me wrong about the motors....there are so many new BL motors out there is is very exciting. it is mainly the way I can afford this sport. I don't say you get what you pay for in most cases but it is true in many...this is one. Great for the consumer.
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          • Darin Jordan
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 8335

            #35
            Originally posted by Jeff Wohlt
            Darin did and through insult with that post to Steve.
            "insult"?? Better go read that again... I took it exactly as it was intended to be taken, as confirmed by Steve himself in a later post... Not "insulted" at all... just pointing out that everyones needs and desires are different...




            Jeff is exactly right... Just because it's "cheap", doesn't make it a good value. Listen to what Jeff and some others might say about them... You get what you pay for sometimes...

            Jay Turner wrote an excellent article (as always! ) in RCBM recently about the cost differences between FE setups and what you get or may get for your money... Spot on as usual...
            Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
            "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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            • Jeff Wohlt
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Jan 2008
              • 2716

              #36
              Darin...that is cool. I guess I read it and it would insult me. As long as it did not insult Steve then I don't care but it seemed harsh.

              Darin is right...back on topic!

              I think many of these motors are certainly capable but we must understand their capacities. Same motor in a good brand and you can turn 2000 watts vs 450. This is where you have to be gentle with the cheaper motor.

              You can push a NEU/hacker/lerhner to the hilt and it will last. I am not looking for a motor that costs me $225.....I think most of us...heck any of us would jump on a good motor no matter if it were cheap if it can perform.

              It all depends what you want out of it.

              As Ben Frankiln says...listen closely...the cheapest is the most expensive. By this he means...longer lasting, more for the moeny in the long run, etc. I believe it is true. You get what you pay for but what do you want to pay for? We all try to cut corners, me for sure, and it can cost us more in the long run.


              So you bought a $44 motor and hooked up your new CC240 and $200 worth of lipos...then you push the motor too hard and melt it....and your ESC cooks from the short and then your cells perhaps. Was it worth it? You just burned about $600 in equip for a $44 motor....at least go the next level and do a Fiego. Just the difference in the BJ motor and the SV are day and night....the price shows it and the results confirm it.

              Just my perspective. I do think the motors work but be careful...nobody loves cheap more than me!!

              Good topic...wish more would experiment with these like Steve is willing to do.
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              • sjslhill
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 1513

                #37
                You guys crack me up......someone did call me afterwards, not sure I am going to start a new site though, too busy.

                I have my new motors, one is mounted in the boat now. Hope to run this weekend with the DPR.

                You guys in NAMBA, if Jeff has enough money to join....you can kiss my grits.

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                • sjslhill
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 1513

                  #38
                  The last thing I heard about Jeff was that he cloned Ned Schmidt's idea and started selling his ideas. LOL

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                  • sjslhill
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 1513

                    #39
                    On second thought

                    For now....results will be posted on RCGROUPS forum. People in the clique don't want others to try different things.

                    thanks and goodbye

                    Steve

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                    • Darin Jordan
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 8335

                      #40
                      Originally posted by sjslhill
                      People in the clique don't want others to try different things.
                      Steve,

                      If this is the conclusion you reach after ALL the discussion and threads about all the different motor combos and tests that many of us have done here (SV27 powered Tunnels.... BJ26 powered LSH... Ammo powered SVs... HiMax powered 1/10ths... and other cheap Chinese-made knock-offs in whatever), then perhaps you just will never get it...

                      To be clear... it appears that all Jeff was saying is that this particular motor is poorly made and hasn't proven to be a good value. We've tried them here to with the exact same results... lots of heat, very poor balance... mediocre performance... that's just the way it is... Plenty of other inexpensive alternatives out there that actually work. And THAT is what most of the rest of us are interested in, and that many of us work to recommend... setups that REALLY work...


                      Good luck with whatever you are trying to accomplish...
                      Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                      "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                      • Spot Me 2
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 769

                        #41
                        Well said Darin!!!!!
                        MMGMMarine
                        RobertsonRacing

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                        • rockwerks
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 772

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Darin Jordan
                          Steve,

                          If this is the conclusion you reach after ALL the discussion and threads about all the different motor combos and tests that many of us have done here (SV27 powered Tunnels.... BJ26 powered LSH... Ammo powered SVs... HiMax powered 1/10ths... and other cheap Chinese-made knock-offs in whatever), then perhaps you just will never get it...

                          To be clear... it appears that all Jeff was saying is that this particular motor is poorly made and hasn't proven to be a good value. We've tried them here to with the exact same results... lots of heat, very poor balance... mediocre performance... that's just the way it is... Plenty of other inexpensive alternatives out there that actually work. And THAT is what most of the rest of us are interested in, and that many of us work to recommend... setups that REALLY work...


                          Good luck with whatever you are trying to accomplish...
                          Only Jeff knows what Jeff is thinking, and frankly, like Jeff Said
                          do think the motors work but be careful...nobody loves cheap more than me!!

                          Good topic...wish more would experiment with these like Steve is willing to do.
                          I dont think anyone has tested this EXACT motor but similar one or am I wrong? (Newbie speaking out of turn)
                          an RC rock crawler lost in a sea of boat parts.........

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                          • ghostofpf1
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 392

                            #43
                            Originally posted by rockwerks

                            I dont think anyone has tested this EXACT motor but similar one or am I wrong? (Newbie speaking out of turn)
                            Like I said....ran too hot for my liking on 4s and it might be more comfortable on 3s..

                            Ghost

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                            • Jeff Wohlt
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 2716

                              #44
                              Ha...good one Steve. Ned and me shared info on building couplers for 2 years and I sold his...many many of his and never claimed they were mine. I now make my own because I invested in a lathe to build wire drives and want to take care of the customer sooner than could be done in the past. I could claim he stole them from

                              You need to think before you open your mouth more...the reason you have been banned from at least one or more boards because you speak from your A$$.

                              Grow up man.
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                              • rockwerks
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 772

                                #45
                                Originally posted by ghostofpf1
                                Like I said....ran too hot for my liking on 4s and it might be more comfortable on 3s..

                                Ghost
                                must have missed that one...
                                an RC rock crawler lost in a sea of boat parts.........

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