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  • sjslhill
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 1513

    #61
    LOL.......I saw where grim wants the AMA to cover boat racers, I hope so, the impba and namba can fade away.....LOL

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    • LuckyDuc
      Team Ducati Racing
      • Dec 2008
      • 989

      #62
      Please cite your reference.

      As an AMA member you have coverage for model sport boating. It has been that way for years.

      +1 DPeterson

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      • sjslhill
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 1513

        #63
        Model Aviation Mag page 38. I wonder if the revolt 30 will meet model sport boating requirments?, and after you guys allow a 10 page upgrade package for it. LOL

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        • T.S.Davis
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Oct 2009
          • 6220

          #64
          Originally posted by D. Newland
          2003 Nat's. My first. LSH. It was even in the rulebook that it was for "beginners".
          I was afraid to mention that. I thought maybe I dreamed it being there. The rule book was truly a mess then.

          So if Doug is correct in saying "These classes were the extension of the brushed 700 LSH, LSO and OPC classes that we have been run for many years prior" then they really were intended to be a beginners class once upon a time.

          We probably should forget what it is/was/usta/spota be and figure out what it needs to be today. It needs to be a common place where veterans and newbs can co-exist and have fun together. It needs to be relatively simple and relatively competitive. It needs to be accessible to everyone without an extendive knowledge of all things FE.

          I feel like the NAMBA limited rules do that. I may be bias.

          The only debate (that I'm aware of) with IMPBA vs NAMBA is the speedo itself. NAMBA doesnt have the speedo limit but if a club or district wanted to limit it they certainly could. Could IMPBA just do the same thing? Let clubs decide instead of mandating it? Then we all have a very similar rules set no matter where we go. Howard just passed out.............

          To simple. Never work.
          Noisy person

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          • Doug Smock
            Moderator
            • Apr 2007
            • 5272

            #65
            Please be careful Mr. Hill.
            Attached Files
            MODEL BOAT RACER
            IMPBA President
            District 13 Director 2011- present
            IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
            IMPBA 19887L CD
            NAMBA 1169

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            • Doby
              KANADA RULES!
              • Apr 2007
              • 7280

              #66
              Funny :)
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              • TheShaughnessy
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Mar 2011
                • 1431

                #67
                iii) In addition, the CD has the discretion to allow the following:
                (a) An aftermarket motor that is a re-labeled and exact copy of any approved motor.
                (b) Any generational change of an approved motor, or a motor that is used in a Ready To Run (RTR) offering from a manufacturer that produces over 100 units of said offering, as long as there is no more than a 5% increase in any of the following manufacturers specifications as compared to any single approved motor: Kv, maximum constant amperage rating, mass, and MSRP.
                (c) The race flyer shall list additional allowed motors for the event

                So on a club level would this open the door to motors outside the specified list like the ones ray linked to in one of his post. The way it reads to me is that the CD has the final say. This is from the NAMBA rule book so I may be way off.

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                • sjslhill
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 1513

                  #68
                  After taking the Li shipping regulation course, most of your rules won't even allow your battery packs to be shipped....I wonder how they are getting around that?

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                  • Darin Jordan
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 8335

                    #69
                    Originally posted by T.S.Davis
                    The only debate (that I'm aware of) with IMPBA vs NAMBA is the speedo itself.
                    The original LSH rules had a very limited list of acceptable power motors to choose from, with part numbers, and did not specify an ESC limit. Sounds like NAMBA just evolved this class to me by replacing the allowable motors. Worked then, works great today. Most popular class then, and, most attended class today... Biggest difference, aside from the tech, is that we were smart and expanded the concept to all hull type. Hopefully we'll take it one step further one of these days and implement a heat racing class for Cat hull types as well...

                    Originally posted by T.S.Davis
                    To simple. Never work.
                    Hahahaha... ain't that the truth!
                    Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                    "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                    • Darin Jordan
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 8335

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Doug Smock
                      Please be careful Mr. Hill.
                      +1 to the Honorable Mr. Smock!
                      Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                      "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                      • TheShaughnessy
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1431

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Darin Jordan
                        Hopefully we'll take it one step further one of these days and implement a heat racing class for Cat hull types as well!
                        I thought that just happened. Didn't Newland propose a rule set for that and get it passed.

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                        • jaike5
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 561

                          #72
                          That $27.00 motor is 2100kv ...... Cheers, Jay.

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                          • egneg
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 4670

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Chilli
                            Chuck, The original draft of D12 FE rules I wrote up called for open ESC's in the P-Limited classes. The only opposition I got on the entire draft was the use of open ESC's by several voting board members who attend the majority of district races as well as the World Tunnel Championships. They already had P-Limited Tunnels and wanted our rules to mirror the rules that they run at the WTC. It was a small price to pay to get their support for the whole package. The irony of this is the WTC rules were modeled after a set of rules from a NAMBA Club.

                            PS- Possible meeting this Saturday between ODMBA and VA Beach Parks and Rec ref a pond near the Virginia Beach Amphitheater
                            That is great news ... keeping my fingers crossed!

                            That's about 5 minutes from my house.
                            IMPBA 20481S D-12

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                            • Grimracer
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 662

                              #74
                              Originally posted by sjslhill
                              LOL.......I saw where grim wants the AMA to cover boat racers, I hope so, the impba and namba can fade away.....LOL
                              Steve,


                              Show me where I "Said" or "Implied that".

                              Just so everybody knows.. As much as I am a fan and member of the AMA I am also a IMPBA member and fan of NAMBA.. I never said that..

                              Grim

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                              • Doby
                                KANADA RULES!
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 7280

                                #75
                                Mr Hill is famous for usless comments...must be a slow day at BattlePack.
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