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  • Doby
    KANADA RULES!
    • Apr 2007
    • 7280

    #16
    Originally posted by ray schrauwen
    There are other countries that make it work. Limit kv, can size and watts and prop. Imagine that....

    I find it silly that we are limited to approx. 4 different motors from 2 manufacturers all of which come from China like the motors I proposed.

    ?
    Its already in our clubs rule book.
    Grand River Marine Modellers
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    • Darin Jordan
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 8335

      #17
      I can't imagine why anyone would want a "Limited" class to be "limited"... I mean, seriously, that would just be crazy...
      Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
      "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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      • Doby
        KANADA RULES!
        • Apr 2007
        • 7280

        #18
        Originally posted by T.S.Davis
        Good plan guys. Let every club decide. That way when you travel to a venue that isn't "your" club you can re-invent your setup every time. The mystery will bolster participation I'm sure. Just carry a shoe box of motors with you that has every motor of every club within driving distance of your home club. That or never travel to avoid the shoe box requirement.

        Another idea, have no rules at all. That way everyone will have the same setup when they get together to race...........or not.

        Rule's is so fun.

        Terry:

        I'm all ready for Michigan

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        • Darin Jordan
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 8335

          #19
          Originally posted by Doby
          Terry:

          I'm all ready for Michigan

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          Hahahaa... Nice!! :D
          Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
          "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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          • Chris Harris
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 182

            #20
            +1, Darin
            I.M.P.B.A. Record Holder P-Hydro 111.001mph Q-Hydro 120.192mph S-Hydro 139.233mph

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            • TheShaughnessy
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Mar 2011
              • 1431

              #21
              I think the biggest problem with HK motors is availability . They might just decide to stop offering a motor also it takes 3 plus weeks to get things in the USA from them, sometimes less but that is rare.
              If I make a 45 min drive I can have a AQ 2030kv motor 1800kv motor or a PB 1800 today. If I drive down the street to a LHS the owner will order one and have it to me in 2-3 days or just order it myself from tower with a similar turn around. Point is they are widely available.sure they are 80 bucks, but at 50 for the sk edf motor factor in shipping and time they aren't that far off. At the end of the day I'm just a NAMBA guy though.

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              • T.S.Davis
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Oct 2009
                • 6220

                #22
                I have the exact same plastic bins with a very similar collection of motors.

                If I have to buy a different motor for each venue I just wont go to those venue. Well, maybe not me, I'm a lunatic. I'll get the required motor but a guy that's pissed about the difference between a $40 motor and an $80 motor is not going to go if he has to spend yet another "x" amount of dollars on a motor to compete with the guys in the next village.

                We've been running these things for years now but we can't use that as reference. Our clubs spec classes last season were won by AQ speedos despite the fact that the ESC were open. No matter.

                The most widely contested classes in the history of fast electrics are based on the NAMBA rules that specifiy a motor and an open speedo.............but let's put our head in the sand and ignore the evidence. Happened in NAMBA so it never happened.

                In anticipation of a potential shortage of motors (real or only perceieved) IMPBA has in effect adopted NO rules. "Well......we don't want to deal with the shortage when it comes so we'll have nothing" That should help participation. By not having rules IMPBA is missing out on the spec era.

                Guys, FE is tooooooooooo0o small to have two different rule sets.

                I know......opinions and buttholes.
                Noisy person

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                • Doug Smock
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 5272

                  #23




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                  • T.S.Davis
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6220

                    #24
                    See you in June Doug?
                    Noisy person

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                    • Ken Haines
                      Racer
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 647

                      #25
                      Interesting thread....makes me miss Dan Chase.....lol
                      TenShock Brushless / Pro Marine
                      INSANE Boats / Rico Racing/ Castle Creations
                      2023, 2024 NAMBA & 2018 IMPBA FE High Points "National Champion"

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                      • photohoward1
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1610

                        #26
                        I just crapped my pants laughing!



                        Originally posted by DPeterson
                        Shifooo - wack - bam - kapoozz. Thats me trying to catch a fart in a wind storm.

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                        • Chris Harris
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 182

                          #27
                          In anticipation of a potential shortage of motors (real or only perceieved) IMPBA has in effect adopted NO rules. "Well......we don't want to deal with the shortage when it comes so we'll have nothing" That should help participation. By not having rules IMPBA is missing out on the spec era.

                          .[/QUOTE]

                          When there is a problem with supply of AQ or PB motors NAMBA will have to adapt as well as the IMPBA clubs. When it becomes a problem then we will have to deal with it plain and simple.
                          I find it interesting that you think that IMPBA is missing out on the "Limited" classes comimg from a NAMBA guy. We had 30 "Limited" boats entered in the first D13 race of the year and we only offer three "Limited" classes, not to mention the 18 boats we had between N-Mono and P-Mono. All this when we are doing it all wrong. I can't imagine what it might be like if we were doing it the right way.....

                          Most of the country, IMPBA and NAMBA are running the same thing anyway and it's not like we have droves of people traveling cross country to race anymore. Those that do always have plenty of lead time if there
                          is something different than they are already running if they choose to go.

                          Any furthur discussion on the subject I will only comment on the IMPBA forum, so join the org. get signed up. I'll see ya over there.


                          Chris
                          I.M.P.B.A. Record Holder P-Hydro 111.001mph Q-Hydro 120.192mph S-Hydro 139.233mph

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                          • photohoward1
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 1610

                            #28
                            So far so good. No name calling yet.... I'm with Terri on this. We do not need 2 sets of rules. Just adopt the NAMBA rules. They work.

                            Doug......I almost caught it hold on.....no just missed!

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                            • properchopper
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 6968

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Ken Haines
                              Interesting thread....makes me miss Dan Chase.....lol
                              Here ya' go

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                              2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                              2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                              '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                              • ray schrauwen
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9472

                                #30
                                It's a SUXFLY motor available all over the place.

                                You are all missing WATT I am talking about... Oy Vey...

                                Originally posted by TheShaughnessy
                                I think the biggest problem with HK motors is availability . They might just decide to stop offering a motor also it takes 3 plus weeks to get things in the USA from them, sometimes less but that is rare.
                                If I make a 45 min drive I can have a AQ 2030kv motor 1800kv motor or a PB 1800 today. If I drive down the street to a LHS the owner will order one and have it to me in 2-3 days or just order it myself from tower with a similar turn around. Point is they are widely available.sure they are 80 bucks, but at 50 for the sk edf motor factor in shipping and time they aren't that far off. At the end of the day I'm just a NAMBA guy though.
                                Nortavlag Bulc

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