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  • andrew_p
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 9

    #1

    BBY ss hydro

    Hello,
    i am relativly new to rc boating so please forgive me if i ask a common or silly question.

    I purchased a bby ss hydro from Randy a few months back and now that its winter here in Australia i would like to get a start on it for next summer.
    I have no idea what kv motor or prop to start with.
    i would like to run it on 11.1 as i allread have several packs, and i was given a 70a speed control (not sure what brand but im sure it is only a cheap one).
    I am not going to race this boat as last time i went to my local club a guy told me i could shove my electric - well you know where!

    any tips or addvice will be much aperciated.
  • Meniscus
    Refuse the box exists!
    • Jul 2008
    • 3225

    #2
    Sorry to hear you received that kind of response. I'm sure that there is someone else in your area that would consider racing with you, even if it's just for fun. That is of course if you are interested.

    On 3s, you have a lot of motor choices. Having an idea of what your budget is would help with motor choices. To start with, you probably don't want a motor much more than around 3200-3300kv. In the middle of the price range, a Feigao 540L (Long) is plenty of motor without running into issues. An 8L (8-turn long can) has a kv of 3072. Link to motor: http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...i-540L&cat=116

    When starting with a smaller prop, say an Octura X637 or a X442, she should do around 51mph. Then you could prop up, watching heat and amp draw of course, to an Octura X640 which would put you at around 55mph. Much more than that and you'll likely need a higher amp ESC to ensure you don't fry anything.

    Randy may have more guidance as well. Send me a PM with your email address and I'll be happy to share various setups with you. I also have a calculator that can assist with selecting props.
    Last edited by Meniscus; 06-07-2011, 10:14 AM.
    IMPBA: 7-Time FE World Record Holder "Don't think outside the box. Rather, refuse to admit that the box exists in the first place!"

    MGM Controllers - Giant Power Lipos - ML Boatworks - Wholt's Wire Drives & Struts - Nano-Oil

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    • rc2266
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 312

      #3
      He was just jealous cause electric is as fast or faster with less maintenance
      I'm married with children, you can't scare me!

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      • andrew_p
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 9

        #4
        thanks for the addvice Meniscus, i think Randy may have advised me to go with a 540l when i bought the hull. i have some questions about the speed controller that i have and was wondering where the best place to post my question would be?
        thanks again for helping me out and i might post my progress.

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        • Meniscus
          Refuse the box exists!
          • Jul 2008
          • 3225

          #5
          Keep posting here. It provides a history of what's been covered and your setup for others to weigh in. Post away.
          IMPBA: 7-Time FE World Record Holder "Don't think outside the box. Rather, refuse to admit that the box exists in the first place!"

          MGM Controllers - Giant Power Lipos - ML Boatworks - Wholt's Wire Drives & Struts - Nano-Oil

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          • RandyatBBY
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Sep 2007
            • 3915

            #6
            I think I was trying to persuade you to run 2S, because I never run 3S. Fudge I am just too tired to make sense.
            Randy
            For ABS, Fiberglass, Carbon hulls and Stainless hardware
            BBY Racing

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            • rcboatmanwithkids2880
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2008
              • 340

              #7
              Hi Andrew ,

              I don't know where you are in Oz , though if you contact an R/C Boating club around where you are instead of one GOOSE that knows everything , i am sure you will get your start in our great hobby worked out .

              All the best in R/C F/E Boating ,
              Brad
              Last edited by rcboatmanwithkids2880; 06-11-2011, 04:45 AM.
              Roy Cooper's www.fastonwater.co.uk - Where Brittish Raceboat History Comes To Life !!!

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              • RandyatBBY
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Sep 2007
                • 3915

                #8
                I am sorry that I have little info on 3S setups I just do not get to run them in NAMBA. But there is a lot of guys on the board that can help in that direction. I can help you with the set up of the boat and what Brad said is is good advise too.

                Sorry. if I made any one feel that I was a big loud quacker that said look at me. I did not intend ever on doing that. I love this sport and just try to help the best I can . No drama, just a apology.
                Randy
                For ABS, Fiberglass, Carbon hulls and Stainless hardware
                BBY Racing

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                • Xzessperated
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 3060

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Meniscus
                  To start with, you probably don't want a motor much more than around 3200-3300kv. In the middle of the price range, a Feigao 540L (Long) is plenty of motor without running into issues. An 8L (8-turn long can) has a kv of 3072. Link to motor: http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...i-540L&cat=116

                  When starting with a smaller prop, say an Octura X637 or a X442, she should do around 51mph. Then you could prop up, watching heat and amp draw of course, to an Octura X640 which would put you at around 55mph. Much more than that and you'll likely need a higher amp ESC to ensure you don't fry anything.
                  Andrew, with Meniscus and I would start with the 37 mm prop as you said you are relatively new to r/c boating. At 50 mph the bank and other obstacles come up real quick when you are driving. Move up to the bigger prop when you feel comfortable to do so. That X637 prop will be a good one to put away in your prop box, as if you stay in the hobby it will get further use on other boats.

                  Randy I think Brad was referring to the GOOSE that told Andrew where he could shove his electric boat, or at least I hope he was.
                  Several boats in various stages of destruction

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                  • rcboatmanwithkids2880
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 340

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RandyatBBY
                    I am sorry that I have little info on 3S setups I just do not get to run them in NAMBA. But there is a lot of guys on the board that can help in that direction. I can help you with the set up of the boat and what Brad said is is good advise too.

                    Sorry. if I made any one feel that I was a big loud quacker that said look at me. I did not intend ever on doing that. I love this sport and just try to help the best I can . No drama, just a apology.
                    Hi Randy ,

                    I don't know if you read my message regarding Andrews run in with a GOOSEhere in OZ correctly , as you may have thought i was implying you ?? . This is not the case as i know you are one of the true gentlemen of this site that sells reputable products , infact about 6 months ago almost bought the 27-28 inch jones type hydro from you , as i want to create an " ATLAS VAN LINES " replica which i spoke to you about at the time - i do plan to buy from you some time in the future to complete my ambtion ...

                    All the best Randy ,
                    Brad
                    Roy Cooper's www.fastonwater.co.uk - Where Brittish Raceboat History Comes To Life !!!

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                    • RandyatBBY
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 3915

                      #11
                      Originally posted by rcboatmanwithkids2880
                      Hi Randy ,

                      I don't know if you read my message regarding Andrews run in with a GOOSEhere in OZ correctly , as you may have thought i was implying you ?? . This is not the case as i know you are one of the true gentlemen of this site that sells reputable products , infact about 6 months ago almost bought the 27-28 inch jones type hydro from you , as i want to create an " ATLAS VAN LINES " replica which i spoke to you about at the time - i do plan to buy from you some time in the future to complete my ambtion ...

                      All the best Randy ,
                      Brad
                      Thanks Brad . I have up set people and did not know why, good in this case I did not I am glad it was not me, thanks again.
                      Randy
                      For ABS, Fiberglass, Carbon hulls and Stainless hardware
                      BBY Racing

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                      • andrew_p
                        Junior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 9

                        #12
                        So i tested the speed control that i have (as i said i think it's just a cheap one but it will do for a start) and here is what i found.

                        if i connect battery but no rx i get nothing

                        if i connect battery with tx on i get - 1 long beep, 1 short beep, 1 long beep and 1 short beep. (i'm sure this means it has initialized) and the unit works correctly.

                        if i connect the battery with the tx on and holding full throttle it seems to go into program mode and i get - 1 short beep then 2 short beeps and so on upto 15 short beeps and then it starts again at 1 short beep.

                        if i go into program mode and let it beep (any number of times) and release the thottle it will give me 1 long and one short beep it will then pause for about two seconds and it will initialize (1 long, 1 short, 1 long and 1 short beep).

                        if i go into program mode and let it beep (any number of times) and release the thottle it will give me 1 long and one short beep. if i then pull full throtle it will continue counting through programing mode (1 short beep to 15 short beeps) until i move to full brake.

                        the speed control is just done in black heat shrink with no markings. i will try to post a pick of it and i hope i have explained correctly.
                        any thoughts will be much appreciated.

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                        • RandyatBBY
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 3915

                          #13
                          Is it a boat controller? If it is a airplane controller you will need a Pistix.

                          Beeps? I do not need no stinking Beeps! SeƱor!
                          Randy
                          For ABS, Fiberglass, Carbon hulls and Stainless hardware
                          BBY Racing

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                          • andrew_p
                            Junior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 9

                            #14
                            hi Randy, it is a boat esc. has water cooling and it will initialize fine with my radio i just want to make sure i set the lipo cutoff correctly. and would like to know what other features it has.

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                            • andrew_p
                              Junior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 9

                              #15
                              Hi guys, the hull is coming along nicely, i have a x442 prop and will be running the feigao 540l 8l motor on 3cell. i have added an inner frame made of carbon tube as sugested by randy but before i glue the two halfs together i would like to install the motor mount and turn fin bracket.
                              in the instruction the mount is 6 3/4 from the transom but there is a raised section on the hatch cover between 9 and 14 1/2 inches so would it be better in this section?
                              where do i mount the battery?
                              any help will be great.

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