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  • longballlumber
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 3132

    #16
    Just incase someone missed it...

    The 200 amp controller is HV good up to 12S lipo

    The 180 amp controller is only good up to 6S lipo

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    • sailr
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Nov 2007
      • 6927

      #17
      Hobbyking buys stuff from all over the place and puts their "turnigy" label on it. There are not that many different manufacturers! There are only TWO manufacturers that I would deal with. Hobbywing is one of them. Hobbywing does NOT make a 200A HV at this time. Hifei is the manufacturer of the one you are looking at:





      Originally posted by properchopper
      The 180 I got from Jim came in a nice foam-lined box, was labeled Seaking on the controller, and had Hobbywing decals in the box. The next one I got from Hobby City came in a plain white box and was labeled Turnigy on the controller, and no decals in the box. They appear identical.
      I'm not sure what this means, although I like the unit.
      Mini Cat Racing USA
      www.minicatracingusa.com

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      • properchopper
        • Apr 2007
        • 6968

        #18
        Originally posted by sailr
        Hobbyking buys stuff from all over the place and puts their "turnigy" label on it. There are not that many different manufacturers! There are only TWO manufacturers that I would deal with. Hobbywing is one of them. Hobbywing does NOT make a 200A HV at this time. Hifei is the manufacturer of the one you are looking at:

        http://hifei.com/en/News_View.asp?NewsID=86
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        • Steven Vaccaro
          Administrator
          • Apr 2007
          • 8723

          #19
          Did anyone notice the hobbywing pc interface software? Looks like a direct copy of Castles.
          Steven Vaccaro

          Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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          • sailr
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Nov 2007
            • 6927

            #20
            Steven, are you sure you don't mean Hifei? They developed their computer interface almost two years ago! I already accused CASTLE of Stealing Hifei's design because it is almost identical. I beta tested one of their aircraft controllers with the interface for them about 18 months ago. Great stuff!

            Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
            Did anyone notice the hobbywing pc interface software? Looks like a direct copy of Castles.
            Mini Cat Racing USA
            www.minicatracingusa.com

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            • Steven Vaccaro
              Administrator
              • Apr 2007
              • 8723

              #21
              I noticed it in the above link.

              Steven Vaccaro

              Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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              • Steven Vaccaro
                Administrator
                • Apr 2007
                • 8723

                #22
                Originally posted by sailr
                Steven, are you sure you don't mean Hifei? They developed their computer interface almost two years ago! I already accused CASTLE of Stealing Hifei's design because it is almost identical. I beta tested one of their aircraft controllers with the interface for them about 18 months ago. Great stuff!
                A Hifei 120 and Castle 120 are very different from the looks of it.

                The Hifei uses two opposing fet boards. The cooling plate is in the middle and used to cool both boards equally. The design is pretty nice. The Castle uses one fet board with fets on both sides and a single cooling plate to cool the inside fets, the outside fets rely on the inside plate to cool them.
                Steven Vaccaro

                Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                • sailr
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 6927

                  #23
                  Aha, guess I missed that! Right you are. I guess Hobbywing does have the ability to program the ESC on the computer.

                  The hifei program isn't programming, it's telemetry, recording temp, amps, volts, rpm, etc. during a flight/run. I still think
                  Castle copied their program for the ICE.



                  Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
                  I noticed it in the above link.

                  Mini Cat Racing USA
                  www.minicatracingusa.com

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                  • MarkF
                    dinogylipos.com
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 979

                    #24
                    Sailr, do you have proof that Castle copied them or are you just running your mouth because you sell these controllers?

                    Mark

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                    • FloatDaBoat
                      Bare Bones Fabricator
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 368

                      #25
                      Originally posted by MarkF
                      Sailr, do you have proof that Castle copied them or are you just running your mouth because you sell these controllers?

                      Mark
                      Sailr’s inference was that the programming software was copied, not the ESCs … if that’s what you’re inferring . . . .

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                      • MarkF
                        dinogylipos.com
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 979

                        #26
                        I know what he was referring too.

                        Mark

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                        • Himalaya
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 251

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
                          Did anyone notice the hobbywing pc interface software? Looks like a direct copy of Castles.
                          Yes I noticed that a year ago. They have awesome hardware design but the cloned software is just a shame. I pointed it out in a domestic forum without any official response.

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                          • Himalaya
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 251

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
                            Reason for the post is that LittleScreamers is sending me a test motor that he say worked very well with this esc. And doesn't work well with anything else I carry. Now its time to figure out who really makes this control.
                            So how was that motor doing? I am trying hard to find a cheaper alternative besides a Neu 2230, and someone recommeded Littlecreamers. Looks okay but still worry about the outrunner's water cooling efficiency, especially in such a high power (over 5KW) application, rapid heat build up can be destructive.

                            Help! Any alter choices besides Neu 2230 ? Electric Motor Design and Construction

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                            • bustitup
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 3071

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Himalaya
                              So how was that motor doing? I am trying hard to find a cheaper alternative besides a Neu 2230, and someone recommeded Littlecreamers. Looks okay but still worry about the outrunner's water cooling efficiency, especially in such a high power (over 5KW) application, rapid heat build up can be destructive.

                              http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1176326
                              for a cheaper alternative check out scorpion 4035-850....at $160 its a stone cold torque monster ans jim williams has some killer water cooled motor mounts ....I have one I'm setting up in the 41" boat you see in my AVITAR

                              ubhauled runs one in a 1/8th scale boat he says screams
                              a guy on rrr runs one in a 41" boat like mine that does 70+ on 10s

                              hey and with an avitar like yours its a no brainer......

                              GL
                              SPRINT CAT 40.........BOOGIMAN 25" MONO 8xl
                              EX President of the Offshore FE Vultures Society

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                              • Ub Hauled
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 3031

                                #30
                                just one correction nick,
                                it's called the 4035/800... it is a power house.
                                :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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