New TP motor only a few runs shaft spun out?

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  • bayareaheli
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 144

    #1

    New TP motor only a few runs shaft spun out?

    I bought this motor from OSE its a TP 4060 1720 kv for my fightercat cheetah i bought it in feb and recently installed it. today about 30 to 40 seconds into my run my boat stopped when i gave it throttle i can hear the motor spin up, so i thought i lost my prop or drive shaft and prop or coupler got loose. so i went to go retrieve my boat when i got it in i noticed that my shaft was out a bit so i figured flex got loose but when i opened my canopy i found that my motor shaft was spinning oddly freely so i gave it throttle motor spun up but shaft did not move? how do i fix this?? or would it be covered by warranty?

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  • tlandauer
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2011
    • 5666

    #2
    Definitely contact Steven, this is faulty workmanship and TP has an office here, so I am sure they would want to know this oddity. The steel shaft is not properly secured with the rest of the rotor. There was another thread regarding the shaft gaining free play, that motor was sent back to China (this might not have been purchased from OSE) and no satisfactory explanation was ever given to its owner, now I wonder if it was the same issure but that shaft just had not completely come loose???
    Just my $ .02
    Last edited by tlandauer; 04-06-2015, 04:14 AM.
    Too many boats, not enough time...

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    • ray schrauwen
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 9472

      #3
      How did the shaft come that far out inside the boat? I would have thought it would only move as much as the space left of exposed flex cable.? ¿??
      Nortavlag Bulc

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      • kfxguy
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Oct 2013
        • 8746

        #4
        Wow! And to think this morning I was actually going to buy this same motor for a budget build. Not now.
        32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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        • tlandauer
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2011
          • 5666

          #5
          I think the OP pulled the shaft out to show us what he meant. It is certainly an arresting image and to think that the shaft and the rest of the rotor can spin independently free of each other......
          Too many boats, not enough time...

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          • bayareaheli
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 144

            #6
            Originally posted by tlandauer
            Definitely contact Steven, this is faulty workmanship and TP has an office here, so I am sure they would want to know this oddity. The steel shaft is not properly secured with the rest of the rotor. There was another thread regarding the shaft gaining free play, that motor was sent back to China (this might not have been purchased from OSE) and no satisfactory explanation was ever given to its owner, now I wonder if it was the same issure but that shaft just had not completely come loose???
            Just my $ .02
            i contacted him today thanks he had me send it in for inspection. was kinda odd i though i lost a prop lol

            Edit:

            If I get a response from them as to what might have caused it I will post it here.
            Last edited by bayareaheli; 04-07-2015, 02:03 AM.

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            • bayareaheli
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 144

              #7
              Originally posted by kfxguy
              Wow! And to think this morning I was actually going to buy this same motor for a budget build. Not now.
              LOL kfxguy it was fast while it lasted :) maybe i just have bad luck?

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              • bayareaheli
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2014
                • 144

                #8
                Originally posted by tlandauer
                I think the OP pulled the shaft out to show us what he meant. It is certainly an arresting image and to think that the shaft and the rest of the rotor can spin independently free of each other......
                Yes thats exactly it, i did pull out the shaft was kinda hard to explain it so figured you guys would understand from the pictures, it pulls in and out really easy. when it was in the boat you can still hear the motor spin up but the motor shaft and prop would not move was really strange :)

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                • tlandauer
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 5666

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bayareaheli
                  Yes thats exactly it, i did pull out the shaft was kinda hard to explain it so figured you guys would understand from the pictures, it pulls in and out really easy. when it was in the boat you can still hear the motor spin up but the motor shaft and prop would not move was really strange :)
                  I should have bought this motor from you, makes one hell of a trick motor.
                  P.S. I don't mean to make light of your situation.
                  Too many boats, not enough time...

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                  • bayareaheli
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 144

                    #10
                    Originally posted by tlandauer
                    I should have bought this motor from you, makes one hell of a trick motor.
                    P.S. I don't mean to make light of your situation.
                    Haha , it would make a trick motor. And no problem i'm sure it will get taken care of was just very odd, glad it was not my new hughey flex and sharpened prop at the bottom of the lake I think I would have been really upset then lol

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                    • bayareaheli
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 144

                      #11
                      Maybe to big of prop? When I ran it I was using 5s 2P leopard 180a esc with castle cap bank, cant remember timing have to plug in program card to check. And prop I was using was a octura X445

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                      • tlandauer
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 5666

                        #12
                        I don't think the size of the prop had anything to do with this. At the most, if you used a prop that was too big and exceeded the motor's tolerance, it would have burned the stator copper wires' lacquer. The smell is very distinct, you would know, also when this happens, you can barely spin the shaft by hand, every burned motor I had all felt the same way. My take is that whatever method that is used to lock the shaft with the magnet rotor wasn't done correctly and thus this was allowed to happen.
                        Too many boats, not enough time...

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                        • bayareaheli
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 144

                          #13
                          Originally posted by tlandauer
                          I don't think the size of the prop had anything to do with this. At the most, if you used a prop that was too big and exceeded the motor's tolerance, it would have burned the stator copper wires' lacquer. The smell is very distinct, you would know, also when this happens, you can barely spin the shaft by hand, every burned motor I had all felt the same way. My take is that whatever method that is used to lock the shaft with the magnet rotor wasn't done correctly and thus this was allowed to happen.
                          Oh ok that makes sense, cause yeah the motor was cool to the touch and no wierd smells when I opened the hatch. And the motor rotor still spins up inside when you apply the throttle but the motor shaft does not spin, hopefully if they send a new one same thing don't happen.

                          Crossing my fingers.

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                          • kfxguy
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 8746

                            #14
                            Originally posted by bayareaheli
                            Maybe to big of prop? When I ran it I was using 5s 2P leopard 180a esc with castle cap bank, cant remember timing have to plug in program card to check. And prop I was using was a octura X445
                            I built a Rivercat for Spartanator with one of these motors and ran an m645 prop and the shaft did not slip. I think these motors are hit or miss because this isn't the first one I've seen so this. I haven't experienced it myself however.
                            32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                            • T.S.Davis
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                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6220

                              #15
                              Likely a fluke. TP has a pretty good reputation.
                              Noisy person

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