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  • urbs00007
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 826

    #1

    flier 400 amps

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-ESC-BOAT...02765?_trksid= can someone buy this and run it. I really wish flier has worked out all their controller's problems and us average folks finally have an affordable, reliable esc to purchase. any takers??
  • Lone-Wolf
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 276

    #2
    Found the same one for a way better deal; Flier 400amp

    Personally, for that kind of power I would pay more for an MGM...yeah it's "alot" more but nothing worse than ruining a nice boat with a burned out esc! Of course I am the first to agree though that we truly need some affordable alternatives for high amp boats.

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    • Lone-Wolf
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 276

      #3
      I wish I didn't see this thread, I couldn't resist, I just bought two of them for my big Mystic, $400 for two 400amp esc's seems pretty fair. I was ready to pull the trigger on some extremely pricey MGM's today/tomorrow so fingers crossed that you just saved me a huge wad, heck these are 1/4 the price let's just pray they are not 1/4 as good as the MGM's. So needless to say, one day when they get here I will do a report on them.

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      • Fluid
        Fast and Furious
        • Apr 2007
        • 8011

        #4
        I hate being a Debby downer, but there is a reason that cheap ESCs are less expensive, and it isn't because the seller makes less profit. We can hope that the cheaper parts, reduced development time and effort, and final assembly end up producing a decent ESC. Odd that the seller can't decide if it's a 12S or 16S controller.

        Then, like so many Chinese products the initial lots will be used to get a reputation to boost sales, then subsequent lots will be made with even cheaper parts. We see this all the time - but there are makers who do care about maintaining quality. Let's hope this manufacturer is one of the latter and LW doesn't end up with no money and no functioning ESC. Time will tell...

        http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...liermodels-esc


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        • Lone-Wolf
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 276

          #5
          I'm not going to expect the World out of these Flier esc's, mainly I just hope they won't have a complete meltdown 30 seconds into the first run and ruin my best boat. I know you get what you pay for but I won't be running SAW with them, trying to stay at 150-200amps and will chose props wisely. I still feel the need to get my hands on those bigger MGM's no matter what the outcome...I hope I didn't make a really bad decision.

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          • urbs00007
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 826

            #6
            400 flier

            Originally posted by Lone-Wolf
            I'm not going to expect the World out of these Flier esc's, mainly I just hope they won't have a complete meltdown 30 seconds into the first run and ruin my best boat. I know you get what you pay for but I won't be running SAW with them, trying to stay at 150-200amps and will chose props wisely. I still feel the need to get my hands on those bigger MGM's no matter what the outcome...I hope I didn't make a really bad decision.
            really hope they work out. let us know either way.

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            • Lone-Wolf
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 276

              #7
              Originally posted by urbs00007
              really hope they work out. let us know either way.
              Absolutely will let you and everyone know, once I get them and run them I will create a solid thread with vid's etc and as much detail as possible. I know it's a crap-shoot but I truly hope for all our sake the outcome is positive...but mainly my boat's sake!

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              • srislash
                Not there yet
                • Mar 2011
                • 7673

                #8
                I have the program box for the Fliers here LoneWolf. You will be needing it

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                • Lone-Wolf
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 276

                  #9
                  Originally posted by srislash
                  I have the program box for the Fliers here LoneWolf. You will be needing it
                  I kinda figured that, good to know you have it. So I take it the software is problematic/useless then?

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                  • srislash
                    Not there yet
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 7673

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Lone-Wolf
                    I kinda figured that, good to know you have it. So I take it the software is problematic/useless then?
                    Nope, just a certain order you need to do things, I have all that as well.

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                    • urbs00007
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 826

                      #11
                      flier 400 amps

                      Originally posted by srislash
                      Nope, just a certain order you need to do things, I have all that as well.
                      I think we all should help "lone wolf" with his build by advising him any way we can to achieve a proper, correct build which will not overload these esc's. His success, after all, benefits everybody interested in reasonable priced, hi voltage esc's. "lone wolf, when you receive these esc's, make sure you run water through them to check for even the slightest water leakage on the cooling blocks. 3 of the fightercat esc's that I ran just before fightercat stopped selling esc's, leaked and took out the esc's. the cooling blocks were siliconed together. Not a good construction method. Also, some of the solder joint (around where the pos and neg battery leads were soldered to the board) were very close to adjacent solder joints. Anyone else have any thoughts or advice ?

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                      • Lone-Wolf
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 276

                        #12
                        Originally posted by urbs00007
                        I think we all should help "lone wolf" with his build by advising him any way we can to achieve a proper, correct build which will not overload these esc's. His success, after all, benefits everybody interested in reasonable priced, hi voltage esc's. "lone wolf, when you receive these esc's, make sure you run water through them to check for even the slightest water leakage on the cooling blocks. 3 of the fightercat esc's that I ran just before fightercat stopped selling esc's, leaked and took out the esc's. the cooling blocks were siliconed together. Not a good construction method. Also, some of the solder joint (around where the pos and neg battery leads were soldered to the board) were very close to adjacent solder joints. Anyone else have any thoughts or advice ?
                        I really appreciate the concerns, nice to not feel alone. For starters I will definitely be testing the watercooling to make sure it's sealed, I've got a small pump and will let it run for a few minutes. Also, will have Cap Banks installed as close to the esc as possible, thanks SRISLASH for sending me those! Hull is MHZ Mystic 138, motors are LMK 3040 1167Kv and will run 8S through X457's for Maiden tests. My 25063 MGM's (250amp continuous) could handle 10S with big X470's reduced to 60mm (116mph) so the 8S setup with the Fliers and X457's should be pretty "mild" and speeds about 90mph max.

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                        • urbs00007
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 826

                          #13
                          maybe we could contact the manufacturer and show him this thread. basically it would be in his best interest to provide a decent esc for reasonable money. and if the esc works well, if quality continues, there is a good market for this esc. I certainly want it to work out. I will be buying at least a couple if they woek as stated.

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                          • Lone-Wolf
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 276

                            #14
                            Agreed and as long as the esc comes anywhere near their spec's it will be fine, heck if Flier could even add higher quality components on for a small increase in price I am sure nobody would have any issues with that...but maybe they won't have to, here's to hoping!

                            BTW Esc's have already shipped and seller said 5-7 days so won't be long until we see something...stay tuned, will keep you all updated.

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                            • srislash
                              Not there yet
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 7673

                              #15
                              Originally posted by urbs00007
                              maybe we could contact the manufacturer and show him this thread. basically it would be in his best interest to provide a decent esc for reasonable money. and if the esc works well, if quality continues, there is a good market for this esc. I certainly want it to work out. I will be buying at least a couple if they woek as stated.
                              I will email Them and see what's been up. I'll explain our situation with the marketplace. They have worked with me in the past so let's hope.
                              Shawn

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