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  • Lone-Wolf
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 276

    #31
    OK, for what it's worth I attached a few shots for size reference visually and some close up's of the cooling tubes on both ends of esc. I wanted to be as realistic as possible in my representation so I used one of my many burned out SF300's!...if I had a non-burned out unit I would have used that one LOL!
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    • Lone-Wolf
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 276

      #32
      Successfully downloaded and installed the Flier PC software. Very easy to use program and worked perfectly so esc's are all dialed in now for setup in my 54" Mystic. Soldering up connections tonight in prep for the Maiden test(s) tomorrow....I hope! Interestingly and annoyingly, the anti-spark wire is on the negative lead unlike Swordfish. Also, esc allows for reverse too, it's a nice feature to have for those occasional times when you don't make a turn and are up against a wall of bullrushes or a mass of weeds, I set the power for reverse to 20% just to be safe but I'm sure I won't be needing it.

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      • kfxguy
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Oct 2013
        • 8746

        #33
        That's awesome. I'll admit I do like having reverse. My saw Rivercat has it.
        32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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        • T.S.Davis
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Oct 2009
          • 6220

          #34
          I can't remember who wrote it but I remember someone having as their signature.

          Cheap
          Reliable
          Fast

          Pick 2.
          Noisy person

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          • Lone-Wolf
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 276

            #35
            OK, esc's soldered up nicely and installed in my Mystic, what beasts they are. So tomorrow it'll be ready to blow...I mean "go".
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            • Fluid
              Fast and Furious
              • Apr 2007
              • 8011

              #36
              Fingers crossed Steve!


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              • srislash
                Not there yet
                • Mar 2011
                • 7673

                #37
                Hope all goes well and we see a break in the rain buddy, Sunday for sure.

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                • urbs00007
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 826

                  #38
                  fingers crossed. how is the water flow thru the unit ?

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                  • Lone-Wolf
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 276

                    #39
                    Thanks guys, I'll video the run(s).

                    Waterflow seems decent but since there are four inlet and four outlets it's a fair length the water has to travel through, 4x6"=24"/esc plus silicon jumpers on the ends to loop back so probably won't flow as well/easily as say my MGM's that have just the one inlet/outlet. At least the lake is good and cold now and I'll be sure and do a visual check on water exiting as she blows by at a slower speed. For what it's worth, this exact setup on 8S/side was allowing the MGM 25063's to run literally cold after a full run.

                    I was mentioning earlier in the thread that these esc's have the anti-spark wires on the negative, one more thing to think about and not screw up down the road when I am running the packs for this esc in other boats with different esc's that have the normal and expected spark wires on the positives!!!

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                    • Lone-Wolf
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 276

                      #40
                      Massive success guys!!! Had to change to a different spot on my lake as the wind was blowing so was in a tighter area but worked out fine. First run was 8S/side and ABC 2215's, will post video in a moment below once uploaded to YT. Seemed to have all the power and punch of my MGM's, felt exactly the same actually, nice smooth throttle response too. Brought her in and opened her up and next to no heat whatsoever! Motor cold, batt's luke warm but most importantly, the esc's were just above cold to the touch, I wish I had not forgotten my temp sensor but I know the reading would have been very low. Of course the esc's are blocks so hard to know what's going on inside but blew out the water pipes and felt just warm.

                      Next run was 10S and changed props to my new Prop Shop 6515's reduced to 57mm. Reason I changed props was I knew there would be a definite blowover if I had kept the ABC's on, barely holds down on 8S because of rake/pitch. In the run, boat had huge punch, huge power, everything the MGM's could do IMO, again video below but man-o-man these esc's did not disappoint!! Made many passes but wind was picking up so had to be careful, easy to see in the video that I had to go slow one direction. Anyways, brought her in after many minutes of almost constant running and low and behold...same cold/low heat on the esc's as the 8S run!!! Next time for sure the temp sensor will be used but rest assured these esc's felt like they were nowhere near being pushed but again we don't know what's going on inside, all seems very sound. GPS reading on 10S was 108mph which is pretty amazing considering these props would be considered "moderate" for this setup. Next time out, probably tomorrow I will run my reduced X470's that produced 116mph, also have a step above that, Prop Shop 6515's reduced to 60mm but we'll see how the 470's do. Was not using my top cells either, will run new Revo 420 gopacks next time. So all in all I am thoroughly impressed with these esc's, stay tuned for continuous updates...and OP, huge thanks for starting this thread, sometimes taking a risk pays off but I better start knocking on wood and keeping my mouth shut, I know what we really need to see is long term trouble-free running.

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                      • Lone-Wolf
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 276

                        #41
                        10S with reduced 6514's

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                        • Lone-Wolf
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 276

                          #42
                          First part of the above 10S run:

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                          • Lone-Wolf
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 276

                            #43
                            For interest sake, here's the 8S run, felt really fast for 8S probably at or close to 100mph:

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                            • srislash
                              Not there yet
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 7673

                              #44
                              Excellent Steve. Glad to see the hounds let you get it in the water, haha. Really glad to hear that the 400's did not disappoint.

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                              • urbs00007
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 826

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Lone-Wolf
                                Massive success guys!!! Had to change to a different spot on my lake as the wind was blowing so was in a tighter area but worked out fine. First run was 8S/side and ABC 2215's, will post video in a moment below once uploaded to YT. Seemed to have all the power and punch of my MGM's, felt exactly the same actually, nice smooth throttle response too. Brought her in and opened her up and next to no heat whatsoever! Motor cold, batt's luke warm but most importantly, the esc's were just above cold to the touch, I wish I had not forgotten my temp sensor but I know the reading would have been very low. Of course the esc's are blocks so hard to know what's going on inside but blew out the water pipes and felt just warm.

                                Next run was 10S and changed props to my new Prop Shop 6515's reduced to 57mm. Reason I changed props was I knew there would be a definite blowover if I had kept the ABC's on, barely holds down on 8S because of rake/pitch. In the run, boat had huge punch, huge power, everything the MGM's could do IMO, again video below but man-o-man these esc's did not disappoint!! Made many passes but wind was picking up so had to be careful, easy to see in the video that I had to go slow one direction. Anyways, brought her in after many minutes of almost constant running and low and behold...same cold/low heat on the esc's as the 8S run!!! Next time for sure the temp sensor will be used but rest assured these esc's felt like they were nowhere near being pushed but again we don't know what's going on inside, all seems very sound. GPS reading on 10S was 108mph which is pretty amazing considering these props would be considered "moderate" for this setup. Next time out, probably tomorrow I will run my reduced X470's that produced 116mph, also have a step above that, Prop Shop 6515's reduced to 60mm but we'll see how the 470's do. Was not using my top cells either, will run new Revo 420 gopacks next time. So all in all I am thoroughly impressed with these esc's, stay tuned for continuous updates...and OP, huge thanks for starting this thread, sometimes taking a risk pays off but I better start knocking on wood and keeping my mouth shut, I know what we really need to see is long term trouble-free running.
                                happy for you. hopefully it will continue. asked srilash to contact flier and keep them updated. any idea of your amp draw so far? thanks for taking a chance. i spent close to a year messing with fightercat units. who could expect leaking water cooling blocks??!!! anyways, good news and keep us informed on progress. a couple more runs like this and will be buying one. thanks, john

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