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  • IRON-PAWW
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 314

    #76
    Hmmmmm. Zelos 48 would probably like that weight. But yeah.... big mono otherwise. Nice... I want one.... though mysterious boxes with god knows what quality control inside make me nervous...
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    • rayzerdesigns
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Dec 2013
      • 1228

      #77
      Is it waterproof?)

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      • kfxguy
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Oct 2013
        • 8746

        #78
        Originally posted by Lone-Wolf
        That would be pretty classic and Travis is the guy to pull it off...maybe even on a 54" hull!
        Originally posted by srislash
        Sounds like a 45" HPR is in order Travis, I don't recall a single being built by anyone.

        Thx fellas. That would be a good thing to try it in but I've got my mind set on a big mono, hopefully soon. They make a giant version (48" iirc) of the kbb34 I have. It's a sweet looking hull and this esc would fit the bill nicely.


        Originally posted by Mxkid261
        Wow that thing is a brick

        Your right. It's almost as heavy as a brick.


        Originally posted by rayzerdesigns
        Is it waterproof?)

        Yes it's advertised as such and it's coated as far as I can tell.



        What I don't like:

        Weight.
        Size.
        Double motor wires.
        Double power wires.

        What I do like:
        Does not feel or look cheap
        Cooling layout is much better than a sf300
        The wire layout (although I hate double wiring) is better


        I hate how the sf300 has black wires in the middle and red on the outside. The flier is much better arranged. I want to let you guys know, the review I'm doing on this unit is unbiased because I wasn't given this unit, I had to pay for it.
        32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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        • Lone-Wolf
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 276

          #79
          For me I like the 6 motor wires as I am using mine with 6 wire Lehners, yeah I can understand more wires in a nuisance but less resistance is of course a good thing, same goes for the dual power wires, aesthetically more pleasing to have less wiring but I'll take the extra 1mph!

          I'm going to be running my 400's through their paces in the 54" Mystic this weekend, no sport props this time, putting on the fast ones, will report in how she goes, hopefully won't be a smoke show but I'm willing to take one for the Team...well not really, just saying ;-)

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          • kfxguy
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Oct 2013
            • 8746

            #80
            Originally posted by Lone-Wolf
            For me I like the 6 motor wires as I am using mine with 6 wire Lehners, yeah I can understand more wires in a nuisance but less resistance is of course a good thing, same goes for the dual power wires, aesthetically more pleasing to have less wiring but I'll take the extra 1mph!

            I'm going to be running my 400's through their paces in the 54" Mystic this weekend, no sport props this time, putting on the fast ones, will report in how she goes, hopefully won't be a smoke show but I'm willing to take one for the Team...well not really, just saying ;-)
            Well in my opinion they could use 6ga power wire (I know castle makes some because I have some) and 8ga an the motor wires. Would cost less money too.
            32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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            • Lone-Wolf
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 276

              #81
              Originally posted by kfxguy
              Well in my opinion they could use 6ga power wire (I know castle makes some because I have some) and 8ga an the motor wires. Would cost less money too.
              Good point, my new MGM's have 6 gauge all around, a nightmare of soldering though. I really dislike soldering two big wires together for the power (as with the Flier's and SF300's) and trying to force them into one connector, not very tidy. Less wires would also be less entry/exit points on the controller so a bit less chance of water getting in...maybe. OK Travis you win haha!

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              • kfxguy
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Oct 2013
                • 8746

                #82
                Originally posted by Lone-Wolf
                Good point, my new MGM's have 6 gauge all around, a nightmare of soldering though. I really dislike soldering two big wires together for the power (as with the Flier's and SF300's) and trying to force them into one connector, not very tidy. Less wires would also be less entry/exit points on the controller so a bit less chance of water getting in...maybe. OK Travis you win haha!
                What I do is solder the two wires together like they would go in the connector. Of course they are too big to both fit at once so I grind the diameter of the joined wires down some till they fit in the connector. Then I tin the connector. Heat up and slip the wires in.
                32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                • Lone-Wolf
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 276

                  #83
                  Originally posted by kfxguy
                  What I do is solder the two wires together like they would go in the connector. Of course they are too big to both fit at once so I grind the diameter of the joined wires down some till they fit in the connector. Then I tin the connector. Heat up and slip the wires in.
                  Great pointer! Was actually just soldering up my second MGM and that thought had crossed my mind...but I don't have a grinder but a dremel could work...but all done now.

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                  • kfxguy
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 8746

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Lone-Wolf
                    Great pointer! Was actually just soldering up my second MGM and that thought had crossed my mind...but I don't have a grinder but a dremel could work...but all done now.
                    Yes I've used a dremel with the rough sanding drum.
                    32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                    • srislash
                      Not there yet
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 7673

                      #85
                      Originally posted by kfxguy
                      What I do is solder the two wires together like they would go in the connector. Of course they are too big to both fit at once so I grind the diameter of the joined wires down some till they fit in the connector. Then I tin the connector. Heat up and slip the wires in.
                      Ditto

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                      • Lone-Wolf
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 276

                        #86
                        Had a chance today to get out in the sub-zero weather to push these Flier 400's harder, did not disappoint to say the least. Again running in 54" Mystic, 10S/side powering Lehner 3040/9 and big SAW props, X470's reduced to 60mm. Unfortunately my GPS was acting up today, new one coming this week so not accurate account of speed but this setup with my MGM25063's as mentioned earlier in the thread produced 116mph, I feel I was right on that today but we'll see later this week. Noticeable sharp punch and no fade in power and best of all, barely warm after each of the two complete runs!...and yes water near freezing so that of course helps alot but still, seems like they are well cooled. The soft cutout worked really nice for both runs at about 15% capacity left. I am really starting to like these esc's.
                        Here's a few clips from today;



                        Last edited by Lone-Wolf; 12-17-2016, 11:26 PM. Reason: spelling

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                        • ls1fst98
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 859

                          #87
                          Awesome news! Glad tonsee some feedback on the 400s as a seller. Very impressive
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                          • kfxguy
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 8746

                            #88
                            I may end up selling mine. I wasn't expecting it to be so large. I'll have to literally buy a larger boat to fit it in to use it. Lol. I might just throw it in the mono just to see.
                            32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                            • Lone-Wolf
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 276

                              #89
                              Originally posted by ls1fst98
                              Awesome news! Glad tonsee some feedback on the 400s as a seller. Very impressive
                              I don't see any reason why these esc's won't be a good seller for you, other than performance they look pretty neat and tidy inside a larger hull, should be easy to tuck them away and easy routing of wires and cooling. I think the "red bricks" look cool in my hull...and for 1/4 the price of what was in there...am I allowed to say that ;-)

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                              • Lone-Wolf
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2015
                                • 276

                                #90
                                Originally posted by kfxguy
                                I may end up selling mine. I wasn't expecting it to be so large. I'll have to literally buy a larger boat to fit it in to use it. Lol. I might just throw it in the mono just to see.
                                Personally I would much rather see you get another hull to fit it in, would be fun to see what you could do with it in a single mono...could you stuff it into your KBB34?

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