flier 400 amps

[urbs00007]

I don't see any reason why these esc's won't be a good seller for you, other than performance they look pretty neat and tidy inside a larger hull, should be easy to tuck them away and easy routing of wires and cooling. I think the "red bricks" look cool in my hull...and for 1/4 the price of what was in there...am I allowed to say that ;-)

yes, these units are better for a larger boat. looks like I will be trying the 300 amp hv unit.

[kfxguy]

Personally I would much rather see you get another hull to fit it in, would be fun to see what you could do with it in a single mono...could you stuff it into your KBB34?

Yea I might be able to stuff it in there. If it is flighty from the speeds I'm trying to get it might help out to have extra weight.

[ls1fst98]

The 16s 300a esc measures 165*57*21mm

The 16s 400 aluminum cased measures 118*63*23mm

The one im interested in seeing is the new 240a 10s.
Waiting on measurements. Will have 1 in hand next week

[Lone-Wolf]

OK new findings today. Got to run my Mystic 138 again with the Flier's but with a bit more prop and more importantly...GPS. Have had alot of bad luck with GPS's lately, won't bore with details...back to Garmin Forerunner 301, works great. Anyways, we all have to keep in mind that comparing the speeds today to the speeds of my pricey MGM 25063's back in August leave some room for variances but the findings are worth something. Today the weather is around freezing and cells were cold, I did a few blasts to try and heat them up, maybe it helped. Top speed today with the Flier's was 105mph with X470's reduced to 60mm. Exact setup last Summer with MGM's was hitting 116mph, water was perfectly calm then and of course cells were 20 degree's or more warmer (Celcius). Second run today was with Prop Shop 6515's reduced to 60mm, these props according to Daboata should yield 5-8mph more then the X470's..."if" power is available to turn them....result: 105mph again. Could audibly tell that the motors were not reaching the same scream (rpm). Was happy to at least see the Flier's were coming in just warm at least, again helped by the freezing water...but a good cooling design for sure. I feel with perfect water and warmer cells there are more mph's left in the setup with Flier's but I highly doubt another 10+mph. Please note I am not bashing the Flier's, I truly like them alot and think they are great. I will continue running them in my large boats but when the time comes to try and hit new top speeds the MGM's will go back in. Maybe for boats running half these speeds with far less amp draw the Flier's will be the same speeds. Anyways, those are the findings of today! More finding to come when wife allows me out to run, maybe Boxing day.

I would recommend the Flier's to anyone except those running SAW...but of course the SAW guys already know that.

BTW This is my 100th post!

[urbs00007]

OK new findings today. Got to run my Mystic 138 again with the Flier's but with a bit more prop and more importantly...GPS. Have had alot of bad luck with GPS's lately, won't bore with details...back to Garmin Forerunner 301, works great. Anyways, we all have to keep in mind that comparing the speeds today to the speeds of my pricey MGM 25063's back in August leave some room for variances but the findings are worth something. Today the weather is around freezing and cells were cold, I did a few blasts to try and heat them up, maybe it helped. Top speed today with the Flier's was 105mph with X470's reduced to 60mm. Exact setup last Summer with MGM's was hitting 116mph, water was perfectly calm then and of course cells were 20 degree's or more warmer (Celcius). Second run today was with Prop Shop 6515's reduced to 60mm, these props according to Daboata should yield 5-8mph more then the X470's..."if" power is available to turn them....result: 105mph again. Could audibly tell that the motors were not reaching the same scream (rpm). Was happy to at least see the Flier's were coming in just warm at least, again helped by the freezing water...but a good cooling design for sure. I feel with perfect water and warmer cells there are more mph's left in the setup with Flier's but I highly doubt another 10+mph. Please note I am not bashing the Flier's, I truly like them alot and think they are great. I will continue running them in my large boats but when the time comes to try and hit new top speeds the MGM's will go back in. Maybe for boats running half these speeds with far less amp draw the Flier's will be the same speeds. Anyways, those are the findings of today! More finding to come when wife allows me out to run, maybe Boxing day.

I would recommend the Flier's to anyone except those running SAW...but of course the SAW guys already know that.

BTW This is my 100th post!

as always, thanks for your input. If you could put mgm's in for your next run, then we could have accurate testing between the 2 speed controllers. or perhaps when weather warms up. maybe grease in stuffing tubes is stiffer in cold weather allowing slower speeds. not an expert by any means, but to be fair to flier, all things should be equal when testing against another speed controller. JMO.

[Lone-Wolf]

Unfortunately my MGM's are in Czech right now but as soon as they are back I will do back to back comparisons, exact same everything...at that point we'll have definitive data...at least we're getting there ;-)

[urbs00007]

flier 400 amps

Unfortunately my MGM's are in Czech right now but as soon as they are back I will do back to back comparisons, exact same everything...at that point we'll have definitive data...at least we're getting there ;-)

we cant forget that we are comparing corvette to malibu. glad to see alien performing this well. keeping my finger's crossed. thanks for your continuing input.

[photohoward1]

Did you turn the throttle exp all the way up on your transmitter? I know on the swordfish you have to do that.


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[Lone-Wolf]

Yes everything set to max on transmitter, good noticing that.

Too bad I don't have rpm sensors hooked up, that would be nice to know...well soon enough we'll have the back-to-backs for speeds.

[Lone-Wolf]

Just back from the lake and managed a 110mph pass, moved the red-bricks forward some, still need to move further, they sure are heavy. Next time out will warm the lipos a bit and run the Revo Gopacks instead of the Turnigy Graphenes, I'm thinking there's a few mph left but even 110 ain't bad for $200 esc's and certainly holding up more than well.

[dasboata]

Yes everything set to max on transmitter, good noticing that.

Too bad I don't have rpm sensors hooked up, that would be nice to know...well soon enough we'll have the back-to-backs for speeds.

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[ls1fst98]

Is the timing set the same between the 2? And thats awesome to hear. Just sold 2 more 400s this week, and got the new 240 10s in mg hands. Looks well made.

[photohoward1]

Are they still available at that price?


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[Lone-Wolf]

Yes timing is of course set the same on both esc's. Glad to hear you sold some! Pic of the 240?

Will be waiting for awhile before I can do my so called back-to-back tests between these Flier's and the MGM 25063's that are being repaired/upgraded at the factory. Actually, soon I do plan on running my massive MGM 40063's in this hull but don't think the results will be as close/fair although the 40063 is rated for 400 amps continuous too...hmmm

[Lone-Wolf]

Are they still available at that price?

Actually I should stop saying $200 (what I paid), no idea why they all seem to be around $275 now...maybe it's my fault! At any rate I think they are a good deal even at the prices they are going for now, well maybe not "a deal" but well worth the price for they they can do. Put it this way; I would buy them again for the going price if I needed more.

Meant to mention, again today, two solid runs and only just warm.