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  • Boatman
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 796

    #76
    Originally posted by Flying Scotsman
    Darin, this what blows me away also. I chose low with V1.3 for my Feaigo motors and no apparent problems???

    Douggie
    This is what I am talking about. So does that mean 1.3 on low setting is actually high. This would mean with good success that way the 1.04 firmware should be set on high... but wait! VOID WARRANTY if you do so? Sounds like the old "catch 22"!

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    • Flying Scotsman
      Fast Electric Adict!
      • Jun 2007
      • 5190

      #77
      Originally Posted by Raydee
      Dougie I did re-calibrate after each firmware change and the problem was and still is there. I won't use 1.04 EVER, sorry there is just something off with it and I can't afford to smoke another controller or fry a motor. I run all Neu motors ranging from a 1515 can to a 1527. I ran my Hydra HV 180 only a handful of times last season because EVERY time I ran it I was scared that my boat would end up on fire using the 1.04 firmware. I am looking forward to a new firmware so I can run my hydro next season.

      Thanks Ray, you confirmed my suspicions.

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      • Ub Hauled
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Aug 2007
        • 3031

        #78
        I also used and abused BC80, BC125, H120, H240. I had no problems with my BC80 and BC125, rock solid. I have a 240 that will just not give up, on the other hand I had 2 others that gave me problems.
        I had a H180HV and that did not work well for me. That brings me to the point I mentioned somewhere, the inconsistency. I think that if you are going to use your name on a product you need to make sure that it is 100% up to your standards, don't you agree? All I am asking is, tighten the QC a bit, the rest will solve itself in time. The flat fees for fixing are not that convenient anymore,
        that's why I wanna make sure that things don't burn when on powering up anymore.

        Flat Fee Repair Costs - Boat Products

        25v Speed Controls
        Hydra-120 - $105.00
        Hydra-240 - $150.00

        50v Speed Controls
        Hydra HV-60 - $140.00
        Hydra HV-120 - $172.50
        Hydra HV-180 - $225.00
        Hydra HV-240 - $270.00

        I always start very gentle on a new ESC, just to make sure that there isn't a problem. Once trust is established I start going a little faster until I deem a good cruising point (temps vs. performance).
        Last edited by Ub Hauled; 12-11-2008, 07:40 PM.
        :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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        • Flying Scotsman
          Fast Electric Adict!
          • Jun 2007
          • 5190

          #79
          Darin and Joe, we await your answer.
          Sorry, Mr.Smock, I took away your trademark

          Douggie

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          • Flying Scotsman
            Fast Electric Adict!
            • Jun 2007
            • 5190

            #80
            Originally posted by Flying Scotsman
            Darin and Joe, we await your answer.
            Sorry, Mr.Smock, I took away your trademark

            Douggie
            I guess not today, how about Jan/26/09

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            • Heath M
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 806

              #81
              This obviously was not correct and was fixed in version 1.04. In version 1.04 the timing values are consistent if programmed via Castle Link or stick programming. The values are as follows:

              Low: 4.75 degrees
              Norm: 9 degrees
              High: 12.75 degrees
              Highest: 16.25 degrees
              I just downloaded the latest link 3.12 and firmware 1.04 and my timing values are as follows
              Custom
              Low: 0 degrees
              Norm: 7 Degrees
              High: 14 degrees
              Highest:20 degrees.
              I have 2 Neu motors a 1515 1Y and a 1515 2d can someone tell me which timing degree i should set these at for racing?
              Also have a Feigao 2 pole motor so which timing should that be set at for racing?

              Cheers
              Heath
              Brisbane,QLD, Aussie

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              • Darin Jordan
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 8335

                #82
                Originally posted by Heath M
                Custom
                Low: 0 degrees
                Norm: 7 Degrees
                High: 14 degrees
                Highest:20 degrees.

                HOW are you seeing the actual timing numbers??


                For Neus... generally, D-Winds don't respond to timing and Neu recommends these be timed at the LOW setting. Y-Winds will respond to timing...
                Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                • Heath M
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 806

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Darin Jordan
                  HOW are you seeing the actual timing numbers??


                  For Neus... generally, D-Winds don't respond to timing and Neu recommends these be timed at the LOW setting. Y-Winds will respond to timing...
                  The timing numbers aer shown on the link exactly how i've written them!
                  The Y motor i had set on Normal And the D wind i had set to race after starting off at low. Should i go back to low on the D wind and maybe high on the Y wind?

                  Heath
                  Brisbane,QLD, Aussie

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                  • Darin Jordan
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 8335

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Heath M
                    The timing numbers aer shown on the link exactly how i've written them!
                    Hmmm... must be on the newere interface... mine doesn't show numbers, only the "low, normal, race, extreme"... I'll have to upgrade.

                    The Y motor i had set on Normal And the D wind i had set to race after starting off at low. Should i go back to low on the D wind and maybe high on the Y wind?

                    Heath
                    I'm not sure what you "should" do, but I do know that Neu recommends the lower timing setting... That being said, and based on the info that with the 1.03 firmware I've had my timing set at "extreme" when the Link says it's on low... I've run all of my D-Wind motors for two years with these settings without issue...

                    Still, I'd set back to normal or even low in the future. This might explain why my 1515 1D would get hotter than my 1515 1Y, all else being equal...
                    Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                    "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                    • Flying Scotsman
                      Fast Electric Adict!
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 5190

                      #85
                      Now, I am really confused. WHAT ARE THE TIMING DEGREES.
                      Joe Ford says this is the timing on V1.4 and a customer states this what I see on new software

                      For extreme applications in the future for me, it will be MGM or Schulze

                      Douggie
                      Last edited by Flying Scotsman; 12-12-2008, 05:25 PM.

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                      • Heath M
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 806

                        #86
                        Darin,
                        I downloaded the new castle link v3.12 yesterday so don't know how old it is and it showed the actual degrees in numbers but they are different to the ones Joe stated..Maybe he'll chime in with WHY.
                        So according to v1.3 firmware i had my Y motor at normal 16.25 deg and my D motor at race 10.75 deg.
                        Guess it's back to the drawing board

                        Heath
                        Brisbane,QLD, Aussie

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                        • Darin Jordan
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 8335

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Flying Scotsman
                          For extreme applications in the future for me, it will be MGM or Schulze

                          Douggie
                          Right on... to each their own.

                          The thermal protection on those Schulzes is great... especially when they thermal on lap 4 of 5 and I race on to the win...
                          Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                          "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                          • Flying Scotsman
                            Fast Electric Adict!
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 5190

                            #88
                            No big repair bill or smell. I will take the protection

                            Douggie

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                            • Darin Jordan
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8335

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Flying Scotsman
                              No big repair bill or smell. I will take the protection

                              Douggie
                              That's funny... I KNEW you were going to come back with that... BUT you must have missed the part where I said I FINISHED the race! r.e.: NO REPAIR BILL or SMELL... except for the sweet smell of victory!

                              Again, to each his own... Maybe someday, if I burn one down at some point, I'll rethink my position, but 4-years of successful CC ESC use isn't a bad string... I think I'll stick with them!
                              Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                              "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                              • Doug Smock
                                Moderator
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 5272

                                #90
                                Oh nevermind, IMHO,you guys are ALL right!
                                Thanks Joe!

                                Doug
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