The "Bling Rocket" build

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  • stelerzman
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 380

    #241
    I understand,

    The only reason I ask is because OSE shows similar items assembled the other way.
    ose-80070-med-dual-tabs_medium.jpeg

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    • srislash
      Not there yet
      • Mar 2011
      • 7673

      #242
      Originally posted by properchopper
      [Shawn - I'm up early so I'll answer this ] - Look at the lack of clearance between the starboard tab and rudder bracket. It's sometimes necessary to invert the bracket for clearance (notice how the rudder bracket is relieved for the adjustment screw). By mocking up the transom hardware before drilling/mounting this can be anticipated and compensated for by elevating the rudder foot location 'tho this can get tricky when the top bolts don't find secure internal footing. As long as the tabs can be set neutral they rarely need to be raised up over the bottom plane - they mostly go down to perform do their intended duty.
      Thanks Tony, yes things got a bit tight keeping the rudder steering rod geometry and keeping the prop in clean water. This was the best layout I could come up with. I also shortened the bolts quite a lot on those tabs.

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      • lenny
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Sep 2010
        • 4293

        #243

        You showed yours first,
        Hear mine the way it came to me just about.
        I like to be able to push them up out of the way sometimes,
        To see what is going on with the ride of the boat with out them in the setup.

        Pursuit 006.jpgPursuit 003.jpg
        ? ONLY IF THEY WORK

        My youtube videos.http://www.youtube.com/user/61manx?feature=mhee

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        • stelerzman
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2013
          • 380

          #244
          Originally posted by lenny

          You showed yours first,
          Hear mine the way it came to me just about.
          I like to be able to push them up out of the way sometimes,
          To see what is going on with the ride of the boat with out them in the setup.

          [ATTACH=CONFIG]109176[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]109177[/ATTACH]
          that's what I was thinking.

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          • srislash
            Not there yet
            • Mar 2011
            • 7673

            #245
            I suppose I could turn them over but I don't think they are active as is.

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            • srislash
              Not there yet
              • Mar 2011
              • 7673

              #246
              Well I got out today but no camera person so I had to go the stationary route. A bit of bounce but not bad I'll change to a X4 series next time out as it is possible that a X642 has too much lift causing the bounce

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              • rickwess
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 777

                #247
                The water looks cold! From what we can see, Ren and Stimpy are doing a great job of keeping her right side up.

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                • lenny
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 4293

                  #248
                  Where is you strut set at from the bottom of the boat ?
                  It is hard to tell from the video, But sounds and looks like it is running wet to me.
                  Also is that on 4s and Any idea of speeds yet ?
                  Last edited by lenny; 12-09-2013, 02:56 PM.
                  ? ONLY IF THEY WORK

                  My youtube videos.http://www.youtube.com/user/61manx?feature=mhee

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                  • stelerzman
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 380

                    #249
                    Originally posted by srislash
                    [ATTACH=CONFIG]109120[/ATTACH]

                    Pic like this ?
                    Looks like the strut is as low as it can go. My suggestion, start playing around with a little weight in the front and/or trim tabs down a bit. This is what settled my boat out.
                    Just my .02 cents.

                    She's looking really good. Great job.

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                    • properchopper
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 6968

                      #250
                      Shawn,

                      Before you go to any lengths to tune the running attitude of the boat, ditch the 642 - it's a lifter prop for smaller hydros and lighter cats. With a 2200KV 4S setup you'll be able, given you keep the setup loose, run up to a m447. With the same powerplant my JC30 ran a cut down & hub cut 447/3 and rocked. Also, since you went to the pains of fabbing a flood tube, raise the strut when you go bigger on the prop. Keep your tabs level at first. If you're running on smooth water like in the vid, keep it loose. For choppy water move your CG forward @ 3/4 to 1 "

                      Here's Mike [TheShaunessy]'s Pursuit [the Bling Rocket & Pursuit are both splashes of the Cyberstorm 32] running a 4074 2200KV on 4S with either a cut down 646/3 or cut down 447 - can't remember which and set up loosey-goosey (not for P-Mono racewater). It rolls, and is an example of what your rig is capable of onced dialed in

                      2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
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                      '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                      • srislash
                        Not there yet
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 7673

                        #251
                        Originally posted by lenny
                        Where is you strut set at from the bottom of the boat ?
                        It is hard to tell from the video, But sounds and looks like it is running wet to me.
                        Also is that on 4s and Any idea of speeds yet ?
                        Just the first run on calm water. Strut is up but probably fine for a larger prop. The 642? I just couldn't find my smallish X4 series. That was 4s and no tabs. Hoping I don't need them. I did move the packs forward for the second part of vid, not much difference. When it warms a bit I'll get it foaled. Hopefully next weekend. Snow has started so should warm to rain soon. This is Vancouver after all.

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                        • srislash
                          Not there yet
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 7673

                          #252
                          Originally posted by properchopper
                          Shawn,

                          Before you go to any lengths to tune the running attitude of the boat, ditch the 642 - it's a lifter prop for smaller hydros and lighter cats. With a 2200KV 4S setup you'll be able, given you keep the setup loose, run up to a m447. With the same powerplant my JC30 ran a cut down & hub cut 447/3 and rocked. Also, since you went to the pains of fabbing a flood tube, raise the strut when you go bigger on the prop. Keep your tabs level at first. If you're running on smooth water like in the vid, keep it loose. For choppy water move your CG forward @ 3/4 to 1 "

                          Here's Mike [TheShaunessy]'s Pursuit [the Bling Rocket & Pursuit are both splashes of the Cyberstorm 32] running a 4074 2200KV on 4S with either a cut down 646/3 or cut down 447 - can't remember which and set up loosey-goosey (not for P-Mono racewater). It rolls, and is an example of what your rig is capable of onced dialed in

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13J0fcfOzr0
                          Thanks Tony, got a 447/3 on the wish list here(OSE)

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                          • srislash
                            Not there yet
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 7673

                            #253
                            Hey finally watched the vid. Runs good loose. Definitely gotta get the hull out of the water.

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                            • srislash
                              Not there yet
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 7673

                              #254
                              I got the Bling out today,one change only. I put a 4512 prop on instead of the 642. Tabs still all up. If I put them down a bit she would be smooth. I still have not set throttle to 150% yet. I hear it is a must with the Swordy ESC.
                              So sorry about the out of frame moments but the phone was Velcro strapped to the backside of Tx. Very temporary...

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                              • Rocstar
                                Joel Mertz
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 1509

                                #255
                                Looks good Shawn. Sounds like the strut could be lowered just a hair. If your ESC is updated you don't need to adjust the throttle over 100%. Also, I think it was only an issue with Spektrum radios (not sure what you're using).
                                "There's nothing else I really want to do other than get up and build boats." - Mike Fiore

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