56" Cat. My First Boat build!

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  • tiqueman
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jul 2009
    • 5669

    #46
    Looking great Twisted. Giving me motivation to build mine thats been on the shelf over a year now also w/ a "boat load of parts" in it. Dissappointing about the quality of your hull. I read about it on the reviews. Other than mine being a "very light lay up" the lamination is virtually flawless. To the point I feel bad cf-ing the inside because it already looks so nice. Anyway, great looking build.. Ill get to mine someday......
    Geico epoxy laminate hatch sale thread Black Jack epoxy laminate hatch sale thread
    HPR06 6S Twin HOTR Genesis (SOLD) Vantex 32" cat Geico racing
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    • ManuelW
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 756

      #47
      And for god's sake, please cut-off the stuffing tube even at the transom, its not intended to go inside the drive.

      regards,
      Manuel

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      • drwayne
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • May 2008
        • 2981

        #48
        I assembled 4 of these same hullhardware in last 14 month.
        http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...t-Genesis-twin

        The TFL stinger drive needs brass tube inside.
        The inside diameter of stinger is 9mm x ~75mm ( 6.4mm bush only at end ) , without the brass tube inserted the flex 'whips' under thrust load and made damage to brass and flex when finished outside stinger.
        9mm suit 11/32 brass with teflon liner, as supplied these kits..

        respect and regards
        W

        Originally posted by ManuelW
        And for god's sake, please cut-off the stuffing tube even at the transom, its not intended to go inside the drive.

        regards,
        Manuel
        Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
        @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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        • bruiser77
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 241

          #49
          Maybe thats because the motors are mounted so far forward and the flex shafts or so long? My stuffing tubes are cut directly at the transom and have not had one problem with driveshafts, drives or any kind of " whipping".

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          • MAMBA2200
            I need a scooby snack
            • Jul 2012
            • 1202

            #50
            What are eBay bucks?
            when you buy on ebay you earn them and every 3 months you get free money to spend on ebay the more you spend the more you get
            Im Only Responsible For What I Say Not For What You Understand

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            • drwayne
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • May 2008
              • 2981

              #51
              Originally posted by bruiser77
              Maybe thats because the motors are mounted so far forward and the flex shafts or so long? My stuffing tubes are cut directly at the transom and have not had one problem with driveshafts, drives or any kind of " whipping".
              For sure.
              From memory the flex are 450 or 500 long
              In the first 2 factory artr builds these were pre-installed, subsequent 2 'bare hull builds I cut to ~300, where none this whip occurred ( but I also stuck 1/2" of brass into tube )
              It appears this builder has not shortened his flex.
              W
              Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
              @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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              • Cooper
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Jan 2011
                • 1141

                #52
                Originally posted by drwayne
                I assembled 4 of these same hullhardware in last 14 month.
                http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...t-Genesis-twin

                The TFL stinger drive needs brass tube inside.
                The inside diameter of stinger is 9mm x ~75mm ( 6.4mm bush only at end ) , without the brass tube inserted the flex 'whips' under thrust load and made damage to brass and flex when finished outside stinger.
                9mm suit 11/32 brass with teflon liner, as supplied these kits..

                respect and regards
                W
                It really depends how much adjustment you want to make. If you are using the right size tube for the flex, with liner or not, there will be very little angle adjustment or the driveline will be kinked ( worse than whipping).
                In my opinion for the distance of having unsupported flex shaft and considering where the fulcrum point is, and size of tube, and potential for pinching the shaft, I also end the stuffing tube about 3~5mm after transom.

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                • Cooper
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1141

                  #53
                  Oh and I usually install another bushing in them, just some more support on the smooth shaft end.

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                  • twissted
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 867

                    #54
                    Thx for that. I think he must of thought that the stingers weren't mounted or something.
                    twissted from speed. Lead, fallow or get out of the way. Copy cats in back of the buss!!!

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                    • twissted
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 867

                      #55
                      I have a wire wrap that I can install to the tube befor bending. this will keep it from everything you just covered.
                      twissted from speed. Lead, fallow or get out of the way. Copy cats in back of the buss!!!

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                      • Cooper
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1141

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Cooper
                        It really depends how much adjustment you want to make. If you are using the right size tube for the flex, with liner or not, there will be very little angle adjustment or the driveline will be kinked ( worse than whipping).
                        In my opinion for the distance of having unsupported flex shaft and considering where the fulcrum point is, and size of tube, and potential for pinching the shaft, I also end the stuffing tube about 3~5mm after transom.
                        I just saw that he is using 1/4 driveline, so I would have to add that I do not have the experience with 1/4 driveline. Sorry, I would however assume they are same as 3/16 just bigger!? For what it's worth.

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                        • twissted
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 867

                          #57
                          56'' Catamaran 022.jpg56'' Catamaran 023.jpg56'' Catamaran 024.jpg
                          Working on the cooling system. I modded the 5.56 bullet casings to look like a exaust. I installed the cooling line before using JB Weld to hold them in place.
                          twissted from speed. Lead, fallow or get out of the way. Copy cats in back of the buss!!!

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                          • ManuelW
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 756

                            #58
                            Mhh hard to imagine its desired to have the tube that far in the drive. A similar thing is for the HPR06/C5009 drives (not the bigger ones), but instead of the stuffing tube (brass/aluminium) just the teflon tube doesn't end at the transom but goes into the drive. If that TFL drive is 9mm ID it would also make sense for me, as almost any known teflon liners available here have an OD of a little below 9mm. Will also avoid damage to the drive housing, should ensure a smooth run and allow easier adjustment of the drive.
                            If the drive position works with almost parallel to the last step it will for sure also work with the stuffing tube that far inside the drive, I'd say its just really uncommon to do that here.

                            regards,
                            Manuel

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                            • keithbradley
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 3663

                              #59
                              I thought for sure those were Clecos when I first looked at the pic...after seeing it full size they look like some type of rifle ammo cases. I remember someone on this forum using those for exhaust sim, but I don't recall who it was.
                              www.keithbradleyboats.com

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                              • iridebikes247
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 1449

                                #60
                                I laughed for a second when I saw the brass inserted that far in the drive. This didn't prevent me from rifling through my tool box to check the fitment of the parts and voila, perfect! Anyway the tube fits well and inserts very far into the stinger. With the flex liner in place and mhz flex safety/support bearing you could have a perfect driveline. I think some people ran into issues with these stingers developing slop? Anyway if that happens I don't see why you can't bore out the shaft and use a speedmaster 1/4 bushing instead. Anyway the boat looks great can't wait to see what it can do. Oh and fyi Twisted my super daytona hasn't yet hit the water and I bought it in September. Waiting on mhz support bearings and a hobbyking order.
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