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  • TristanJones
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 266

    #46
    I think so, I forgot to mention I was only running a TFL 440 prop too, the T180 is alittle heavier and takes up more room, but thats what Id be using!
    You can program certain settings into an esc, usually running mode IE forward, forward and reverse, reverse. motor timing and so on.

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    • dddmx3
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 233

      #47
      Originally posted by TristanJones
      I think so, I forgot to mention I was only running a TFL 440 prop too, the T180 is alittle heavier and takes up more room, but thats what Id be using!
      You can program certain settings into an esc, usually running mode IE forward, forward and reverse, reverse. motor timing and so on.
      That's what I figured.. I've just never heard someone call it a program box before.

      I was thinking of running a 45mm cnc prop

      Also should I get a 25C lipo with 50C burst ....or..... a 45C lipo with 90C burst?
      After all is said and done, more is said than done.

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      • dogg
        Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 49

        #48
        45c-90c burst. More current means more punch from the motors. Too little current (amperage) from the batteries means less efficiency and the motors will be overstressed due to lack of sufficient supply.

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        • dddmx3
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 233

          #49
          Originally posted by dogg
          45c-90c burst. More current means more punch from the motors. Too little current (amperage) from the batteries means less efficiency and the motors will be overstressed due to lack of sufficient supply.
          Thanks.
          After all is said and done, more is said than done.

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          • LOVE6S
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 545

            #50
            Hey bud, you have many options that you can do, I wouldnt bail out totally on the 4s setup quite yet,, you original setup wasnt too bad, the only thing is I think the 2650kv motors on 4s was a little high on the kv, probally the 2200kv motors would be better. One question I have for you is can you fit a 4074 motor with a jacket in the sponsons of the hull? If so, if they will fit, I have a option for you, hobbyking has some leopard clone motors in stock right now, they are 4074 2000kv motors, they seem to be a good motor for the money, they are only 45.00 each, and they are very simular to the leopard, if not the same motor. A setup such as two of those, with two t180 esc's and two 5s lipos would be fast, maybe a little too fast, but what the heck, I think I am going to do one like that in the future. One drawback of going with the 5s lipos over a 4s setup, is that the 5s lipos will be larger, and you will probally have to go smaller in the MAH amount, the milliamps is the capasity of your battery, or how long it will run. For example a 5s 4000mah lipo, may be the same size as a 4s 5000 mah lipo. the two lipos in the same mah rating, the 5s will be larger, wich is ok if it fits ok, and doesn't put too much weight in the boat. Measure how much room you have for the lipos, where you are going to put them either in the sponsoons or on the tunnel, in the sponsoons is better, as it keeps the weight lower in the hull and is easyer to move them forward and backward to adjust you center of gravity, wich should be around 30%. The COG is the balance point of the boat, and should be about 30% from the rear transom where your stingers mount. Oh and I almost forgot, if you know what you can fit for a lipo in there, when your looking at them to buy them, it will give you the size they are in milimeters, they are expensive make sure they fit, and go for the higher c rating as the other person sugested. I know I threw alot out there, hope I didnt confuse you, pick what you want out of it and take you time and think things out, to make sure you get what you want and need, Shawn.

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            • Alfa Spirit
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Oct 2009
              • 2131

              #51
              In my Genesis I have two NEU 1512 with HRC water jackets, the NEU 1512 is 39mm diameter, they fit very well in the hull . MBP-RC have motor mounts for the Genesis hull http://mbp-rc.de/Motorspant-Genesis-GFK-schwarz



              5S 6000mAh Nano-Tech fit in the sponsons. I have nothing for sale, I just want to inform dddmx3

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              • dogg
                Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 49

                #52
                This isn't bad advice if they fit....

                Originally posted by LOVE6S
                Hey bud, you have many options that you can do, I wouldnt bail out totally on the 4s setup quite yet,, you original setup wasnt too bad, the only thing is I think the 2650kv motors on 4s was a little high on the kv, probally the 2200kv motors would be better. One question I have for you is can you fit a 4074 motor with a jacket in the sponsons of the hull? If so, if they will fit, I have a option for you, hobbyking has some leopard clone motors in stock right now, they are 4074 2000kv motors, they seem to be a good motor for the money, they are only 45.00 each, and they are very simular to the leopard, if not the same motor. A setup such as two of those, with two t180 esc's and two 5s lipos would be fast, maybe a little too fast, but what the heck, I think I am going to do one like that in the future. One drawback of going with the 5s lipos over a 4s setup, is that the 5s lipos will be larger, and you will probally have to go smaller in the MAH amount, the milliamps is the capasity of your battery, or how long it will run. For example a 5s 4000mah lipo, may be the same size as a 4s 5000 mah lipo. the two lipos in the same mah rating, the 5s will be larger, wich is ok if it fits ok, and doesn't put too much weight in the boat. Measure how much room you have for the lipos, where you are going to put them either in the sponsoons or on the tunnel, in the sponsoons is better, as it keeps the weight lower in the hull and is easyer to move them forward and backward to adjust you center of gravity, wich should be around 30%. The COG is the balance point of the boat, and should be about 30% from the rear transom where your stingers mount. Oh and I almost forgot, if you know what you can fit for a lipo in there, when your looking at them to buy them, it will give you the size they are in milimeters, they are expensive make sure they fit, and go for the higher c rating as the other person sugested. I know I threw alot out there, hope I didnt confuse you, pick what you want out of it and take you time and think things out, to make sure you get what you want and need, Shawn.

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                • iamandrew
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 577

                  #53
                  I run 2 5S 5000 MAH packs , which are zippys, they only JUST fit in the sponsons, but apparantly on the net, 6S 5000 mah packs fit..... its just you wont actually get any photos to prove it hahaha

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                  • TristanJones
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 266

                    #54
                    LOVE6S; I consider that good advise.
                    I would also recommend the turnigy aquastar 3974 2200kv motor, I believe it to be a leopard copy also though I havent used one myself am about to put 1 in my genesis and see if it will get me over 100kmh, then the leopard goes in, for now....

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                    • Alfa Spirit
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 2131

                      #55
                      Originally posted by iamandrew
                      I run 2 5S 5000 MAH packs , which are zippys, they only JUST fit in the sponsons, but apparantly on the net, 6S 5000 mah packs fit..... its just you wont actually get any photos to prove it hahaha
                      The Zippy Compact 6S 5000mAh should fit.... may be

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                      • Rumdog
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 6453

                        #56
                        Got any pics of your setup, Alpha?

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                        • Alfa Spirit
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 2131

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Alfa Spirit
                          The Zippy Compact 6S 5000mAh should fit.... may be
                          Or 2 x 3S in each transom. Anyway 5S 1P is ok don' t worry. I will post pics with batteries.

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                          • iamandrew
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 577

                            #58
                            so its compleatly built ?

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                            • jkr
                              FE Addiction
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 568

                              #59
                              Originally posted by iamandrew
                              so its compleatly built ?
                              Theoretically or hypothetically?

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                              • dddmx3
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 233

                                #60
                                I've got alot of advice for setup.. Not sure which to choose. The leopard copies for $45 ea sound like a plausible setup?
                                After all is said and done, more is said than done.

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